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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #330 on: February 22, 2009, 07:12:11 AM »

Danny knows all about that...
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #331 on: February 22, 2009, 06:35:44 PM »

Crystal, Gurl you are worrying my nerves all those inuendos.  I just say what has to be said. If you got something to say, Gurl say it.  Iffn' you don't, let it go!  Ya' killin' me here!  Jes' say it!
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #332 on: February 23, 2009, 12:19:02 PM »

I just keep coming back to this question.  How many just plain people do you know, let alone someone who heads a Christian (?) ministry, who have been questioned, linked or accused of the things that Danny Sheldon has been?  I used to live in a small town in Northern CA and we had a "soap opera" happening in the church between two couples.  Ended up with one member in jail for trying to have murder committed.  I went to visit him in jail and remember thinking - " I don't know people like this."  I wanted to throw up.  It was so totally opposite of anything I had ever experienced. In the 40 years before and the almost 20 after, I have never run into anything even close to it until I started reading about 3ABN.  Just find it amazing.  If only one or two of the alledged accusations are true it is enough to make a person sick to the stomach.  I did try to question 3ABN by email and got a nasty little email back from Walt clocked in "In the precious name of Jesus".  Again, how many people like this do you know.  Maybe it is something in the water in IL.
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #333 on: February 23, 2009, 12:28:49 PM »

You are right, GRAT, it is just plain weird.

If you or anyone else cares to forward Walt's emails, while this saga is ongoing I am keeping a collection.
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #334 on: February 23, 2009, 01:09:48 PM »

You have it already.
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #335 on: February 23, 2009, 05:20:58 PM »

I had a letter from Walt Thompson when I ask about Linda and how I felt it was so unfair to her to remove everything about her from 3ABN.   I was so disgusted with it that I deleted it.  Sorry.  I would have liked to have added to the collection.
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #336 on: February 23, 2009, 07:07:36 PM »

You have it already.

My apologies for not keeping it all straight. It's a chore!
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #337 on: February 23, 2009, 07:24:08 PM »

Sorry that may have sounded a little short.  I didn't mean for it to sound that way.  Don't expect you to remember it all.  I'm impressed with what you can remember and keep straight.  Keep on keeping on!   :thumbsup:
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #338 on: February 23, 2009, 10:11:21 PM »

Any SDA pastor or church employee would be placed on administrative leave if a young adult woman would have filed an affidavit alleging unwanted sexual advances. An investigation would then take place, by a disinterested third party.

Administrators and board members at 3ABN are familiar with how any ministerial organization would handle such accusations.

No actions were taken by 3ABN's board of directors when the president of 3ABN had such an affidavit made against him.

This clearly appears to be a coverup and an abuse of power.
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #339 on: February 24, 2009, 03:42:47 AM »

Any SDA pastor or church employee would be placed on administrative leave if a young adult woman would have filed an affidavit alleging unwanted sexual advances. An investigation would then take place, by a disinterested third party.

Administrators and board members at 3ABN are familiar with how any ministerial organization would handle such accusations.

No actions were taken by 3ABN's board of directors when the president of 3ABN had such an affidavit made against him.

This clearly appears to be a coverup and an abuse of power.

Those are the things which occur or could have occurred when someone proceeds with a complaint against another.

But an affidavit by itself does not prove guilt or innocence...

And how would you have justified putting anyone on a administrative leave of absence pending an investigation, when you weren't able to proceed with an investigation, and were actually prevented from doing so by the alleged victim, Crystal? 


IOW How do you conduct an investigation when the affidavit writer and those behind her writing it were only willing to mail it to those who could do nothing about it, and then complain and gripe and accuse because nothing was done? How would you proceed when they were not willing to file a police report or cooperate with an investigation or even talk to anyone on the 3abn board about it, or proceed in any kind of way beyond the mass mailings to those who were uninvolved? (those who also couldn't have done anything without the alleged victim's cooperation -- even if they did have the authority to proceed with an investigation and did have a say so about what to do the parties involved?)

How do you justify taking action against anyone without an investigation of the circumstances, or being allowed to question both the accuser and the accused unless you are an Inquisitor or a live in a communist or fascist state, Crystal?

I say anyone, because what we are talking about here is not just DS, these principles apply to anyone, including YOU. Should you be put on leave of absence pending an investigation when there is no way for that investigation to happen?  Should you be fired even tho you claim to be innocent just because someone writes a affidavit against you, and then won't talk about it, or cooperate with a investigation and you never get the chance to face your accuser? Should you be considered guilty without proof or do you want to be considered innocent until proven guilty?

There is no need to answer this. I am sure that all here know in their hearts, even if they will never admit it, that they would not want that for themselves, or their loved ones, even those who wish that upon DS, or another.



If you want to ask Danny Shelton something "CRYSTAL", THEN GO DO SO, PLEASE.

If you have something to report to the Police, "CRYSTAL",THEN GO DO SO, PLEASE.

If you have something to bring to the 3abn board's attention or Danny's church, or the board member's churches, then take it there, tell it to them, let them handle their members, and if they don't? then complain to their conference, and BE SPECIFIC, and let them handle their members, and their member churches . That's the way it works. If they do nothing? then maybe you have a reason to be publicly saying something, but you still need to be specific.

All your posts are is ugly innuendo and a smear campaign and fodder for the masses who love to believe evil of another. Those who eat this kinda gossip and rumor up like it's an essential part of their daily diet.

Others here may think your post content is all fine and dandy and that the end justifies the means but I disagree.

This is not the right way to do things, and what you are doing here is not even remotely christian to me.

~ Cindy

P.S. I know who the real Crystal is and you and I both know you are not her.
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #340 on: February 24, 2009, 06:21:50 AM »

 :ROFL:

...pot...kettle...black...
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #341 on: February 24, 2009, 06:39:15 AM »

Get your head out of the sand, Cindy.

Alyssa had good reason for not wanting to meet with the board. Remember how Glenn Dryden was treated, how Mike Riva stooped so low as to send him that threatening letter? Remember Walt Thompson's claimed investigation where he never even bothered to contact the alleged victims or their families?

Danny and Walt are all about cover up, not about handling matters in a professional, reputable way.

I think 3ABN donors have a right to know whether donor funds paid Mike Riva to write that despicable, reprehensible letter he sent to Dryden. Did Mike Riva sell his soul to 3ABN to write that letter, or to Danny Shelton? Who paid the bill, in other words?
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #342 on: February 28, 2009, 12:16:09 AM »

Ted Kennedy used power and prestige to thwart off any investigation into his drunk driving that murdered a young woman at Chappaquiddick.
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #343 on: March 04, 2009, 05:24:29 AM »

Get your head out of the sand, Cindy.

Alyssa had good reason for not wanting to meet with the board. Remember how Glenn Dryden was treated, how Mike Riva stooped so low as to send him that threatening letter? Remember Walt Thompson's claimed investigation where he never even bothered to contact the alleged victims or their families?

Danny and Walt are all about cover up, not about handling matters in a professional, reputable way.

And the entire policeforce , the various DAs, or their various Churches, and the entire 3abn board, etc were also all about cover up, and none ( not a one?)had or have a conscience, or sense of ethics or morality? Danny and Walt have such power and could have ignored them, or covered all that up whether in regards to Tommy or Alyssa or anyone else? puleeese...

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I think 3ABN donors have a right to know whether donor funds paid Mike Riva to write that despicable, reprehensible letter he sent to Dryden. Did Mike Riva sell his soul to 3ABN to write that letter, or to Danny Shelton? Who paid the bill, in other words?

Always fixating on Tommy and your sexual allegations against him and attempting to change other topics to that.. Always muddying the waters, and condemning someone whether realated to the issue or not, instead of dealing with issues  one at a time...

And you wonder why nothing is resolved, and you were sued???
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Re: Questions I wish I could ask Danny Shelton on CA
« Reply #344 on: March 04, 2009, 08:42:05 AM »

I believe my answer to you was appropriate.

And 3ABN's donors do have a right to know whether their donations paid Mike Riva to write that despicable, reprehensible letter he sent to Dryden.

And Mike Riva is not unrelated to this whole controversy. Remember? Riva not only sent that reprehensible, despicable letter to Dryden, he also put his signature on the Sept. 25 and Oct. 2, 1998 deeds whereby Danny made nearly $129,000 in 1 week. And then Riva had the nerve and gall to argue in the property tax case that there was no evidence of private inurement.
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