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[Bob Pickle]

It is interesting that she foretold of a time when it would be unsafe to possess flocks and herds.

Today if your herds have prions and those prions get in the soil, how do you eradicate the prions out of your barnyard? Autoclaving doesn't work. It's a serious problem.

What she foretold appears to be unrelated to laws that forbid buying and selling.

[Johann]

In its great crisis Iceland seemed to get an advantage by great steams of herring around the coast. Boats were catching huge loads of herring until it was discovered that a great percentage of the herring were diseased and could not be used for human consumption. Experts state it will take several years until herring can be used again for human consumption. What is happening to the ocean?

[tinka]

It is interesting that she foretold of a time when it would be unsafe to possess flocks and herds.

Today if your herds have prions and those prions get in the soil, how do you eradicate the prions out of your barnyard? Autoclaving doesn't work. It's a serious problem.

What she foretold appears to be unrelated to laws that forbid buying and selling.

Yes you are right and before that time of definite forbidding of buying and selling I sort of felt that because of economy so bad that right now it is getting pretty hard to buy what is needed. I was more thinking of economy so bad or depression or recession or what ever happens that is so bad that I think people will be too poor or hungry before the degree. Sorry for giving wrong impression. I think already parts of the world are at that point. I think it will happen even more here soon.

[tinka]

It is interesting that she foretold of a time when it would be unsafe to possess flocks and herds.


I would say that it would be a demanding time with no more herds! no more flocks.



Today if your herds have prions and those prions get in the soil, how do you eradicate the prions out of your barnyard? Autoclaving doesn't work. It's a serious problem.

What she foretold appears to be unrelated to laws that forbid buying and selling.

[CRYSTAL]

If an SDA pastor was treating a 17 year-old girl to dinner alone, taking her to sporting events alone and having her baseball and basketball games recorded,  then this would raise eyebrows in any church community. People would be suspicious of such behavior. They would demand to know what the purpose was in doing this...

So shouldn't a self-proclaimed evangelist and southern gospel singer also be questioned and held accountable for this same kind of behavior? Especially since he's claimed his wife was unfaithful to him?

[Bob Pickle]

Absolutely.

[Fran]

Crystal;

I am concerned; very concerned about this happening.  I have heard the story several times before.  The story has been told to others, by others, before; some at 3ABN knew also; others knew he was using 3ABN equipment to tape the games; others knew it was put on satellite; others knew he bought her a car.  No one cared.  No one called him on it.

It was common knowledge that Danny used the jet to attend sports games out of the state and probably in the state.  No one cared/cares.  Did Danny's church know?

We have all heard all the stories!  3ABN has heard all the stories.  Yet, they continue to allow Danny to reign supreme at 3ABN!  It seems the last days are already here and the Lord has only a few true followers that will do what is right in God's eyes, no matter what the consequences.  There are none of these followers at 3ABN.  In fact, I have come to the conclusion that God doesn't live there anymore.  I believe He has moved to another place where His name can be lifted high.

I believe those that are using 3ABN are beginning to feeling the effects of their decisions to continue to associate with 3ABN, not caring that Danny Shelton is not of God.  I have always loved Amazing Facts and Maranatha.  However, I have lost all respect for Amazing Facts, Maranatha, ASI & others.  They all know, but are over looking his horrendous activities to use 3ABN for their own edification and gratification!  It is disgusting beyond measure. 

Yes, Crystal, I fear evil abounds because of the way Danny has conducted his life.  This person is not the 1st to come along that can tell a similar story.  In fact I get an upset stomach when I see Brenda Walsh.  She and Danny are a disgrace to the Name of Jesus Christ!  How can they dare put the two of them up on the pedestal as the leaders of children?  May God tear them out of 3ABN with a mighty hand.  If He is not able to root the evil out, I pray that 3ABN will disappear!  That is harsh from me because I have been an avid viewer of those that are holding the banner of Christ high.  However, I am changing my opinions very fast.

The BOD still condone actions and keep Danny in his position.   Therefore, I believe they are no longer of God, period!

ASI continues to glorify Danny and his evil even though he refuses to have the GC audit his books!  Danny does not come close to living up to their requirements.  In support of the evil Danny, they have withheld funds from other ministries because of Danny!  This is a sin!  They are not of God.  There are those that share Board positions on ASI and 3ABN.  They are not following the clear word of God.  I cannot support them since they are promoting evil.  They can no longer be of God!. 

Maranatha Shares Board members of ASI and 3ABN  Therefore, all three of those organizations are in bed together!  Each bear the responsibility of Danny continuing as the leader of 3ABN!  They each are contributing to evil by choice.  They still supports Danny, or they would go to Hope TV!  As long as these choices continue, the more I am convinced that 3ABN needs to be destroyed so God can cleanse the camp once and for all.  Danny must be set free so he can continue his life filled with evil without being a Seventh-day Adventist representative.

That is so harsh, but it is how I am beginning to feel.  I am not alone either.  I just spoke with a friend.  Women's ministry leaders are hearing Brenda Walsh's telephone conversation.  They are not going to invite them to women's ministries any more.  This is in another state and I believe it will be the same in Texas as more members hear that telephone conversation. 

Bob and Gailon are our only earthly hope of something being done!  Please pray their appeal is won!  They have been faithful in many things.  They are not perfect, but have really been used.  God has led all of the witnesses to come to them with evidence.  God can intervene.  Then again he may allow them to just rot away.

No money of mine will go to these three ministries including Amazing Facts!

If an SDA pastor was treating a 17 year-old girl to dinner alone, taking her to sporting events alone and having her baseball and basketball games recorded,  then this would raise eyebrows in any church community. People would be suspicious of such behavior. They would demand to know what the purpose was in doing this...

So shouldn't a self-proclaimed evangelist and southern gospel singer also be questioned and held accountable for this same kind of behavior? Especially since he's claimed his wife was unfaithful to him?

[Artiste]

Well, that is quite an indictment, Fran!

I have to agree with you, though.

[Fran]

Questions for Danny:

1.  Did you think you got away with all those coins?
2.  How about answering the questions about the 17 year old you courted and bought a car for and flew her to games, dined her and, made her a TV Basketball star?
3.  What else did you two do?  Should Linda finally know?
4.  Did you destroy all of the eBay sales evidence from the sales from nan_don, (Nan Don, Haiti)?  I see you are headed that way to take care of business. Should I tell the IRS?  Oops, done already.
5.  Isn't it a good thing that eBay is a real business and keeps their records?
6.  What about all those sales that were sold by Trent and Bob after nan_Don?  eBay has those records, Do you think the IRS will be upset that you destroyed records?
7.  Did you finally give Linda 1/2 of your hidden $170,000 checking account?
8.  Did you have to pay a fine for hiding it in your settlement case?
9.  Do you think that the Lewis ministry has a record of your cash donation of $20,000?  They should have a $20,000 cash deposit AND a cash receipt showing you donated $20,000 cash, Right?
10. Can you keep ahead of the IRS at all the other evidence they have that I have not revealed publicly?
11. Do you find all of this embarrassing in any way?
12. How can you put Brenda Walsh in charge of our children?  First Tommy and now Brenda.  When will it stop.
13. Have you heard a copy of her telephone conversation?  Interesting, huh?
14. What about Linda's daughters allegations?
15. How are you going to answer all the questions surrounding your character?  God removed his chosen when they departed from God and went their own ways.  How will you answer?

[Wendall]

I will answer question number two with some questions and some statements. The story is a fable and a unsubstantiated rumour at this point in time. If not true it is defamation per se. That is an actionable lawsuit. It becomes interesting about a situation when more facts become known. If you are seen with a underage member of the opposite sex having dinner can you jump to the conclusion that the relationship is inappropriate especially if the member is your relative? How many uncles or aunts or family members have bought a car for a less advantaged family member? Now you say DS bought a car for someone-1. Does that mean that he bought and PAID for the car? 2. Did DS buy the car on a loan type basis with the 17 year old or with the understanding the car was to be used for a short time until graduation and then the car would be returned to him? 3.Did the 17 year old enter into a contract as a minor by buying the car from DS that was by law void and when she became of age she was required by law to affirm her contract or lose the car? 4. Did she affirm the contract with DS as a cosigner and fail to make the payments requiring her to return the car to the cosigner? 5. Did she get into any car accidents requiring the cosigner to take the car away from her? Was she under DS's insurance and DS was going to be cancelled unless the car was immediately returned to him? I could continue with questions but does how you answer to any of the above question change your view on the relationship?

It is certainly wrong for DS to use the plane and airwaves for sports events. Again without a person having personal knowledge of an event it can be considered hearsay. I for one do not want to be condemned and be found guilty by pubic opinion for a rumour. Okay, someone told you about the events which were told by him or her from another person who heard that from another person and so on... Because someone sees something they can jump to the conclusion of what they think they perceive and condemn the accused and publish their opinion for the world to potentially see or they just hear it from someone else resulting in lowering that person's reputation in the community=Libel.

That is tough and well unfair even if the accused is a public figure as DS. It could be analyzed as piling on-jumping on somebody unfairly when they are down. Get the facts first then proceed.

[tinka]

Maranatha Shares Board members of ASI and 3ABN  Therefore, all three of those organizations are in bed together!  Each bear the responsibility of Danny continuing as the leader of 3ABN!  They each are contributing to evil by choice.  They still supports Danny, or they would go to Hope TV!  As long as these choices continue, the more I am convinced that 3ABN needs to be destroyed so God can cleanse the camp once and for all.  Danny must be set free so he can continue his life filled with evil without being a Seventh-day Adventist representative.


Fran,

 I also am so disappointed in the same trend that I have watched for some time now. Not only all that you see on TV they produce but also in the churches becoming so ...___I want to use a word but thought all would know what I mean. I know one preacher that we would not enter the doors where he is at. Their communion is now pass up front for your wafer and no more foot washing. I feel the whole conference is corrupt. We are here, we are at the time of disclosure that EGW talks about. The church as we know it is about to fall as some still fight for truth. But the church of truth is still going to be triumphant. It is more disappointing to know that if none of this was true the fact remains that with the human eye you can see the extravaganza of the money. How can one not see it. Does not DB see it. Boy am I disappointed. I have realized for a long time that the pew money is not used in the right sequence of proportions as instructed by counsel. We have supported all of the above but now looking for a better way. How do most of the other evangelists stand on this. I know that will be hard to say. But it is best said, I guess.  We were in horror at the onset of business we entered in years ago as we discovered this very thing of corruption where we were at ...but too late, too late. I am ready for Jesus to come for my self but my heart is so weak because of the rest. Not that I even know if I will make it but I just can hardly stand to see this evil that has taken from the pure in heart.

[Bob Pickle]

I will answer question number two with some questions and some statements. The story is a fable and a unsubstantiated rumour at this point in time. If not true it is defamation per se. That is an actionable lawsuit. It becomes interesting about a situation when more facts become known. If you are seen with a underage member of the opposite sex having dinner can you jump to the conclusion that the relationship is inappropriate especially if the member is your relative? How many uncles or aunts or family members have bought a car for a less advantaged family member? Now you say DS bought a car for someone-1. Does that mean that he bought and PAID for the car? 2. Did DS buy the car on a loan type basis with the 17 year old or with the understanding the car was to be used for a short time until graduation and then the car would be returned to him? 3.Did the 17 year old enter into a contract as a minor by buying the car from DS that was by law void and when she became of age she was required by law to affirm her contract or lose the car? 4. Did she affirm the contract with DS as a cosigner and fail to make the payments requiring her to return the car to the cosigner? 5. Did she get into any car accidents requiring the cosigner to take the car away from her? Was she under DS's insurance and DS was going to be cancelled unless the car was immediately returned to him? I could continue with questions but does how you answer to any of the above question change your view on the relationship?

It is certainly wrong for DS to use the plane and airwaves for sports events. Again without a person having personal knowledge of an event it can be considered hearsay. I for one do not want to be condemned and be found guilty by pubic opinion for a rumour. Okay, someone told you about the events which were told by him or her from another person who heard that from another person and so on... Because someone sees something they can jump to the conclusion of what they think they perceive and condemn the accused and publish their opinion for the world to potentially see or they just hear it from someone else resulting in lowering that person's reputation in the community=Libel.

That is tough and well unfair even if the accused is a public figure as DS. It could be analyzed as piling on-jumping on somebody unfairly when they are down. Get the facts first then proceed.

You've raised some good points. However, if Danny only bought a car for one underage female relative, and if that relative wasn't even a first cousin, it does raise questions that Danny should answer. Especially since Tommy is alleged to have also given a car to one of his interests.

Regarding the plane, someone could grab the flight logs for 3ABN's planes and compare them with sporting events, and see if there are any matches. Anyone can get the flight logs.

One of the things we asked for documents about pertained to the allegation that some worker got rental benefits in exchange for unusual favors. Again, rather than cough up documents on October 27, Shelton and 3ABN moved to dismiss the lawsuit on October 23. They thus missed a golden opportunity to put these ugly allegations to rest once and for all. One could therefore assume that these allegations may have been true.

[judibug61]

I guess in some respects I am abit naive  but....my granddaughter watches Kids Time every Sabbath morning....I have always had a dislike for Brenda Walsh for many reasons....But Fran,,,I am just wondering about the telephone conversation you referred to in your post....Is this something derogatory..?? I'm really not watching 3abn anymore ...since Linda is no longer a part of the program.....I just can't watch it.......but I don't know if I want to continue to let my granddaughter watch Brenda Walsh.......and her program.......I was just curious......

[ex3abnemployee]

You've raised some good points. However, if Danny only bought a car for one underage female relative, and if that relative wasn't even a first cousin, it does raise questions that Danny should answer. Especially since Tommy is alleged to have also given a car to one of his interests.

...a car which, by the way, was demanded to be returned the instant said interest came forward with allegations against Tommy.

[Bob Pickle]

I guess in some respects I am abit naive  but....my granddaughter watches Kids Time every Sabbath morning....I have always had a dislike for Brenda Walsh for many reasons....But Fran,,,I am just wondering about the telephone conversation you referred to in your post....Is this something derogatory..?? I'm really not watching 3abn anymore ...since Linda is no longer a part of the program.....I just can't watch it.......but I don't know if I want to continue to let my granddaughter watch Brenda Walsh.......and her program.......I was just curious......

Brenda has accused Linda of multiple affairs, of being afraid she was pregnant, of apparently getting an abortion, and of rendezvousing with Arild Abrahamsen at his condo in Florida.

So when faced with such accusations we have to consider whether Brenda is being truthful in what she says. Some of this is hard to nail down and some of it isn't, so we have to look at the easier stuff.

Brenda stated that Linda got the tickets to Florida over her objections. The truth of the matter is that Brenda arranged for the tickets, and 3ABN paid for them. Now since Brenda was the one that actually reserved the tickets, how can she have any credibility when she says that Linda is the one who got the tickets over her objections?

There is more, but I'll stop there for now.