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[daylily]

Somebody told me today that Danny Shelton had written a book by that title and it was published by Remnant Publishing.  Surely that is not true!! Somebody tell me it's not true!

daylily

[sonshineonme]

Somebody told me today that Danny Shelton had written a book by that title and it was published by Remnant Publishing.  Surely that is not true!! Somebody tell me it's not true!

daylily

LOL - irony....

http://www.adventistforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/181336/The_Church_Rumor_Mill

What would the REAL point of this "new book" be?? I don't plan to buy and read it, not in a million.....
You have heard the saying "it's the journey, not the destination"?? Makes one go hmmmmmm.
Can you spell  B A C K F I R E?

[daylily]

I am rendered almost speechless by the , dare I say "stupidity" of this?  I just sit here shaking my head. I don't know what else to say.

daylily

[sonshineonme]

I am rendered almost speechless by the , dare I say "stupidity" of this?  I just sit here shaking my head. I don't know what else to say.

daylily

my opinion is, it's written to a specific targeted group that will, of course, BUY IT.   

[bonnie]

I am rendered almost speechless by the , dare I say "stupidity" of this?  I just sit here shaking my head. I don't know what else to say.

daylily

Frankly it shouldn't surprise anyone. To me it is obvious that DS likes the attention that is focused on him. He could put almost a complete stop to most of this. Telling his devoted followers to please cease responding and commenting.
Very little would come of this then.
I don't think he is being harmed that much. I still think he likes the role of beleaguered evangelist struggling mightily against such evil

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

I will simply ad the notation that NO-ONE knows the impact of rumor and innuendo then Danny Lee Shelton and is why he must be confronted and punished for his miscreant behaviour for decades.

And Remnant has certainly been a beneficiary!!!

He use to command the Rumor Mill Circuit...when he had credibility. And he has surronded himself by RUMOR-MONGERS such as Brenda Walsh and John Lomacang. And many otherd before this current cabal.

I cannot wait for its intorduction. Will be the first to buy one and begin the process of tracking every assertion for veracity. Don't be surprised to discover that most of the examples will be "factually challenged" and seriously embellished.

As for Remnant and the brothers that run that farsical organization, well let's just say that they are still in my range of obvious targets that are big on hype and low on openness and transparency. Never has anyone spent so much to prevent the discovery of so little from so few!!! They must have something under that mantle of Adventism that they do not want us to see, don't you think??? In my opinion, it is just a matter of time before we have a "head-on" colission.

They keep it up, they will spend the Million Dollars they made on TCTR!!!

Maybe they are trying to make it up on Rumor Mills!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy

[bonnie]

I cannot wait for its intorduction. Will be the first to buy one and begin the process of tracking every assertion for veracity. Don't be surprised to discover that most of the examples will be "factually challenged" and seriously embellished.

As for Remnant and the brothers that run that farsical organization, well let's just say that they are still in my range of obvious targets that are big on hype and low on openness and transparency. Never has anyone spent so much to prevent the discovery of so little from so few!!! They must have something under that mantle of Adventism that they do not want us to see, don't you think??? In my opinion, it is just a matter of time before we have a "head-on" colission.

Gailon,
While I am firmly convinced DS enjoys the attention ,I also believe you eagerly wait any and all, no matter how small and preferably big news that can be examined under a microscope for that one error,falsehood,mistake. While I don't think that there is much honest error dealing with DS,I don't think there is a rumor or scandel that doesn't just make your day.

Most of us find enough wrong or have enough wrong done to us that we don't go out tracking it down. Having lived for six years knowing anything someone may think they knew about my son or could find would be turned right side out looking for that tiny weak spot in the seam.

Life isn't that boring I guess that I have to eagerly wait for a book to tear apart. When it comes to me and affects my family ,I am not likely to back up, but I am not rushing headlong out there to see what I can find.

Maybe they are trying to make it up on Rumor Mills!!!

They just might, take into account those waiting with baited breath for something new to bite into,those that  sound almost like a cult following DS,those sincerely curious,he may have a best seller.

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

You know, Bonnie, that is what journalists do!!! I regret that you find it so detestable but the truth is what results and we take rumors, put them under a microscope and we report our findings. Yes, we frequently unravel rumors and foil conspiracies. At the very least, we bring OPENNESS AND TRANSPARENCY to the cloistered and secret compact that rules by lies, innuendo and fabrication.

You really ought to try it as it is very rewarding work to see victims exonerated and miscreants discovered and exposed. And, Yes, IT MAKES MY DAY!!! And it is with pride that I readilly admit it.

Your problem is that your prejudice outweighs clear evidence and if your particular ox in the fight gets gored, Bonnie becomes an enemy of truth. I think that is a big part of Grandma Netties problem as well. Truth is always expendable to ones prejudices.

Gailon Arthur Joy

[bonnie]

You know, Bonnie, that is what journalists do!!! I regret that you find it so detestable but the truth is what results and we take rumors, put them under a microscope and we report our findings. Yes, we frequently unravel rumors and foil conspiracies. At the very least, we bring OPENNESS AND TRANSPARENCY to the cloistered and secret compact that rules by lies, innuendo and fabrication.

Journalists?? You may claim to be one, you may have convinced yourself you are one,but I don't really swallow that

You really ought to try it as it is very rewarding work to see victims exonerated and miscreants discovered and exposed. And, Yes, IT MAKES MY DAY!!! And it is with pride that I readilly admit it.

I am not sure it is victims exonerated that is so exciting to you.

 

Your problem is that your prejudice outweighs clear evidence and if your particular ox in the fight gets gored, Bonnie becomes an enemy of truth. I think that is a big part of Grandma Netties problem as well.

Here we go again. Bonnie does not have an ox to gore in this fight. I am not an enemy to truth. I am to those that want  nothing more than to achieve recognition using anyone and everyone that crosses their path. Either as a whipping boy or one that gets the rather dubious praises for being in awe of certain people.
I personally think that there are a couple of ring leaders on either side that deserve each other. Only problem is the constant jockeying for first place position.

As for my prejudice,you haven''t a clue. Personally, I do not like and do not place a great trust in televangelist so if I have a prejudice it would be there. But I dislike those  as well that simply want name recognition and to be treated with awe because they are rude and arrogant.

Truth is always expendable to ones prejudices.

This is something that should be given a great deal of thought by some as they struggle to make their fight a holy fight
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[Gailon Arthur Joy]

And who has defined this as a holy war? And isn't the term an oxymoron?

There is nothing Holy about this and there is only a modicum of civility.

And for the record. your prejudices are grossly obvious in nearly every statement you make.

And by the way, YOU ARE A JOURNALIST...what a shock, huh? You have frequently reported things you have seen and experienced and the First Amendment to the US Constitution Guarantees that right to do so and to express your opinion, even when it is prejudiced and not objective. Ain't it great??? Even if it reeks of arrogance!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy

[bonnie]

And who has defined this as a holy war? And isn't the term an oxymoron?

Not to some people it isn't.

There is nothing Holy about this and there is only a modicum of civility.

Being civil is a little tough, that I can agree with

And for the record. your prejudices are grossly obvious in nearly every statement you make.

At least some of what you say I can see as humourous, altho doubtful if you meant it that way .
Hope you have better vision dealing with the ones you are after than your vision as far as I am concerned. I have little patience, little espect and little liking for what I believe to be true concerning DS.
Unfortunately that is also  true concerning a couple of others in this fight. 

And by the way, YOU ARE A JOURNALIST...what a shock, huh? You have frequently reported things you have seen and experienced and the First Amendment to the US Constitution Guarantees that right to do so and to express your opinion, even when it is prejudiced and not objective. Ain't it great??? Even if it reeks of arrogance!!!

That is about the weakest, silliest thing that has been said so far. Really stretching there aren't we??
Reporting what has been seen by some, or what some honestly believe to be true is not the problem,nor does that make someone a journalist. But of course you knew that as you were typing that rather silly observation. No one said being pompous,rude,arrogant,overbearing was against the constitution. Just as stating that, is not against the constitution.


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[Gailon Arthur Joy]

There are US Supreme Court decisions that support just that premise and one, in fact, quotes a jurist by declaring that the moment a person picks up a pen and chooses to write about their observations, even though it be nothing but a handwritten letter of protest, they have entered the protections of the First Amendment and the right of free speech.

Martin Luther would be proud of just how far the framers of the United States Constitution carried out the premises of the Protestant Reformation and the inalienable rights that the right of conscience carries with it.

So, enjoy your new found avocation as a journalist!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy

[daylily]

This thread seems to have veered slightly off topic 

[Fran]

I understand how you feel!  Every time I talk about eBay, the topic gets hijacked also!  It happens right away or Danny's posters stop posting there and the threads die.  I sympathize.

I guess that no one cares to hear a liar tell about church rumor mills!  At least that is my thought.  How can I say he is a liar?  Danny lied to me.  That is a fact!  One was when he told me Brenda Walsh had never been in his house ever.  Oops!  That was clearly a big whopper.

   Hijacked!

[irspro]

And who has defined this as a holy war? And isn't the term an oxymoron?

Not to some people it isn't.

There is nothing Holy about this and there is only a modicum of civility.

Being civil is a little tough, that I can agree with

And for the record. your prejudices are grossly obvious in nearly every statement you make.

At least some of what you say I can see as humourous, altho doubtful if you meant it that way .
Hope you have better vision dealing with the ones you are after than your vision as far as I am concerned. I have little patience, little espect and little liking for what I believe to be true concerning DS.
Unfortunately that is also  true concerning a couple of others in this fight. 

And by the way, YOU ARE A JOURNALIST...what a shock, huh? You have frequently reported things you have seen and experienced and the First Amendment to the US Constitution Guarantees that right to do so and to express your opinion, even when it is prejudiced and not objective. Ain't it great??? Even if it reeks of arrogance!!!

That is about the weakest, silliest thing that has been said so far. Really stretching there aren't we??
Reporting what has been seen by some, or what some honestly believe to be true is not the problem,nor does that make someone a journalist. But of course you knew that as you were typing that rather silly observation. No one said being pompous,rude,arrogant,overbearing was against the constitution. Just as stating that, is not against the constitution.


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Bonnie hop on Snooer's shoulder for the "lock and key!"