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Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« on: August 19, 2009, 12:54:45 PM »


Thread title:U.S.Court of Appeals ORDER - 08/19/09

Posted -- Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:37 pm

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It appears that when Pickle and Joy disagreed with the Judge's granting of 3ABN's motion for the dismissal of the lawsuit which had been filed against the duo in Massachusetts, and then immediately filed an appeal with the U.S. Court of Appeals so they could continue being sued, that they ran off half cocked, and basically jumped the gun...

As of today the Appeal Judges have vacated their positions and rescinded the following notice concerning the submission of Pickle and Joy's appeal:

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NOTICE
Issued: May 29, 2009
In accordance with Fed. R. App. P. 34, this is to advise you that a panel of three judges, after examination of the briefs and record, unanimously agree that oral argument is notneeded in this case. Consequently, pursuant to Fed. R. App. P. 34(a), this case will be submitted on the briefs without oral argument.



What does this mean?

Pickle and Joy's appeal has been temporarily suspended as the Judges ruling on their motion for reconsideration in the Massachusetts district court is still pending. Whether their appeal continues or not depends upon the district court's ruling and Pickle and Joy's compliance with the conditions set by the Appeal court in it's order.

The Order was issued today, and is quoted below.


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ORDER entered by Michael Boudin, Appellate Judge

    United States Court of Appeals For the First Circuit

    No. 08-2457


    THREE ANGELS BROADCASTING NETWORK, INC.,
    an Illinois Non-Profit Corporation, Et Al.,
    Plaintiffs, Appellees,
    v.
    GAILON ARTHUR JOY, Et Al.,
    Defendants, Appellants.

    ORDER OF COURT

    Entered: August 19, 2009


    Defendants seek to challenge the district court's voluntary dismissal order.

    Subsequent to the filing of this appeal, the district court denied defendants' motion for costs as a further condition to the grant of dismissal. Defendants filed a timely motion for reconsideration of the denial of costs, which is currently pending in the district court. We hereby vacate our submission notice dated May 29, 2009, and hold this appeal in abeyance pending the disposition of the motion for reconsideration by the district court. In the event that defendants are dissatisfied with the district court's ruling on their motion for reconsideration, they should file a new timely notice of appeal.

   Defendants shall file a status report every sixty days and promptly inform this court once the motion for reconsideration has been decided by the district court. Failure to file a status report may lead to dismissal of this appeal for lack of diligent prosecution. See 1st Cir. R. 3.0(b).

    By the Court:
    /s/ Richard Cushing Donovan, Clerk.
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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal held in abeyance
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 01:16:54 PM »

Cindy,

Why would you write the above?

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It appears that when Pickle and Joy disagreed with the Judge's granting of 3ABN's motion for the dismissal of the lawsuit which had been filed against the duo in Massachusetts, and then immediately filed an appeal with the U.S. Court of Appeals so they could continue being sued, ....

That wasn't why the appeal was filed, and you should know that.

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... that they ran off half cocked, and basically jumped the gun...

The appellate court never said so.

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As of today the Appeal Judges have vacated their positions ....

Whose positions? The duo or the judges?

The only thing vacated is the submission notice.

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Whether their appeal continues or not depends upon the district court's ruling ....

Not quite. It depends on whether we are satisfied with the district court's ruling.

It makes sense for the court of appeals to handle all appeals at the same time. And, our present appeal does deal with payment of costs.

But this by no means says that we would not have lost our opportunity to appeal the dismissal and its terms if we had not filed a notice of appeal within 30 days after the original order was entered. This by no means says that we "jumped the gun."
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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 04:50:46 PM »

Is this still being held in abeyance?

If so, then why after all this time?

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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 05:23:47 PM »

The district court still hasn't ruled on the pending motions.

Our first status report which we filed with the Court of Appeals is at http://www.3abnvjoy.com/1st-cir-08-2457/1st-cir-08-2457-appellants-1st-status-report-10-02-09.pdf.
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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 03:49:58 PM »

As a great deal of time seems to have gone by, why are they not ruling on these old pending motions, and can anything be done in regards to such a lengthy delay?

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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2009, 05:47:47 PM »

As a great deal of time seems to have gone by, why are they not ruling on these old pending motions, and can anything be done in regards to such a lengthy delay?
Maybe Ian can shed some light on that. She seems to be the legal expert around here.
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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2009, 06:16:40 PM »

As a great deal of time seems to have gone by, why are they not ruling on these old pending motions, and can anything be done in regards to such a lengthy delay?
Maybe Ian can shed some light on that. She seems to be the legal expert around here.

I think she may have some real and imaginary alter egos who help her out with that...      :dogwag:

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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2009, 09:44:36 PM »

The light that some shed is darkness.
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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 07:26:20 AM »

As a great deal of time seems to have gone by, why are they not ruling on these old pending motions, and can anything be done in regards to such a lengthy delay?
Maybe Ian can shed some light on that. She seems to be the legal expert around here.

I think she may have some real and imaginary alter egos who help her out with that...      :dogwag:


Yes, and I believe I know the name of at least one of those extra personalities.
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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 08:19:23 AM »

Yes, and I believe I know the name of at least one of those extra personalities.



LOL!!  Yup - I'm sure you do, Duane!  I think I know of a couple myself.

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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2009, 07:01:12 AM »


Does anybody know if there were dragonflies on Noah's ark?

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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2009, 09:47:45 AM »

 :ROFL:

I think they must have come from amalgamation! Like the dinosaurs!   sin sure is confusing to those who can't detect... sympathy is a great downfall used in the name of "justification" of wrong doing. 

Still don't know how LS stood it as long as she did knowing family history. One time of any of it would be enough. Still do not understand the wife and family of TS.

I would be horrified and so out in space if my husband gave me up for a man. Just my opinion but with situations of man and man, and woman and women the worst is having both. I consider it low as animal.

My children would be gone from his sight and I would even change their names. You can call it sickness, on going, corrupting other lives and I would be gone as far as I could get and just leave him in the hands of the Creator and start new life somewhere else. That is plenty of grounds for getting away from it. The sick part is calling this well "I love Him". I must be the biggest sinner cause I can't understand this kind of relationship and dwell within.  I do hope LS is having a "picker upper" good life.
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Re: Breaking News - Pickle and Joy's Appeal suspended
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2009, 04:33:15 AM »

As a great deal of time seems to have gone by, why are they not ruling on these old pending motions, and can anything be done in regards to such a lengthy delay?

Daryl,

The American Legal system is so awash with litigation that the court will not grant priority to something they have already "dismissed" to clear the docket. Every judge is severely backed up and not a lot happens when the judge is away for extended leave or vacation. Judge Saylor is perceived as a fair but "clear the docket" judge and will always get to it in his time with hasty, but inconsistent decisions, to a large degree the failure of pathetically ill prepared "law clerks".

Look at the judges order regarding return of documents: the oral version does not match the written order from the clerk and is inconsistent with the "confidentiality order" and even now the record submitted and certified complete by the district court clerk is in fact missing the "bank statements". Now just where did the bank statements go?

It is clear that Magistrate Judge Hillman declined the Plaaintiff's case for "in camera review", which would mean the bank statements should have been released to the parties requesting them...specifically the Defendants that paid for them. But, mystically, they were "lost" until well after the dismissal (and the clerk had certified the record to be complete, including the entered "confidential" documents) at which time the clerk seems to have sent at least a copy to the Plaintiffs. If it was the only copy, and Judge Saylor signed off on the release of these docs to the Plaintiffs when they did not belong to them, then we have the Federal Government expropriating defense funds to the benefit of the Plaintiffs and worthy of yet another complaint...not to mention that since these were indeed a part of the record at the time of appeal, somehow, they just slipped between the cracks and never were sent to the appellate court as part of the record. Ain't that somethin'???

Now, think of the dilemma if the bank statements are the only copy that was sent to the Plaintiffs...the clerk will have to attempt to "claw back" a copy, but then you have a "chain of custody" issue for the evidence and would have to be carefully compared with the submission by the bank in order to be admissable evidence. In other words, they would have to be re-certified by the bank officer. More delay and more cost, all because of an inconsistency and inappropriate expropriation by Plaintiffs that most probably used their "connections" to the court to "expropriate" the statements for fear that "we", the defendants, would actually see what was in those bank statements (and believe me, Plaintiff's counsel was absolutely paranoid with fright that the court had released a copy to us in October of 2008). And think of the dilemma of the Adminstative Judge that will now have to investigate just what happened here!!! It is one of the hazards of being "pro se" in that the system just hopes that no-one notices when lawyers carefully selected for their "judicial connections" pull off shennanigans and try to get away with it un-noticed...but then you have old "eagle-eye" Bob who will find the "rotten apples" in every barrel!!!

I consistently maintain that patience in these cases always pays dividends...you give them enough time to get enough rope and they will inevitably hang themselves somehow!!!
Believe me when I say this war is far from over. Time and justice are always allies.

So, in summary, PATIENCE, my boy, so they can keep reeling out the rope and the appellate court panel watches in wonderment as the District Court rules and purveys. Besides, we now have a second appeal and the Appellate court has clearly taken notice. Given the 1st Circuits huge recent reversal to Saylor in another case, my guess is that they have a sufficiently weary eye. Justice will prevail.

Gailon Arthur Joy
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