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Did they see the following video?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBUGVkmmwbk&t=153s

I did a little searching online, and I would have some definite questions before trying that route. There are those who claim it isn't what it claims to be.

How did things go last Fall?

I often think of this quotation. I don't want to be one of those who is asked this question! We have 31 families on our road (about 3 miles)  and some other friends not far away. Most are Baptists or were raised Baptist and are not church-goers right now. We hope to send out an invitation to every one of them and invite them to a prophecy seminar this fall at our home. We would appreciate prayers!

But to answer your question, I don't think we can generalize, some Adventists are giving the warning, some are giving a muddled message. We need to ask ourselves, "What am I doing to warn those in my circle of influence?"

Did they see the following video?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBUGVkmmwbk&t=153s

UPDATE on EMBERLY From Trishonna
Dear Friends and Family
It's been a few months since the last update has been shared about Emberly. We're glad to report she has been improving every day since her surgery last summer in late June. Thank you for all your prayers for our family during this very long and difficult journey for Emberly and the rest of us.
Since Emberly has been home from surgery she's been able to quit taking the dreaded steroid medication. She had been on it since the spring to help offset the edema and swelling around her brain, but it also caused her to gain a lot of weight and have other undesirable side effects. During this time our mom also has been an ever present care giver and working to integrate alternative treatments into her schedule and keep her on track with the doctor's orders.
Over the summer her Doctors advised (and insisted) that she go on a round of chemo and radiation. With 99% or more of the tumor now removed from the surgery she would respond more favorably to this treatment designed to target any residual cancer cells in the hopes to keep them from replicating and causing the tumor to come back. After prayer and family discussion Emberly began a month long schedule of chemo and radiation therapy. She successfully finished around the end of September.
That brings us to the current update. This last week Emberly was taken to Santa Monica for an MRI and follow up visit with her medical team to see how things were going. The MRI was inconclusive. They noticed some minor areas that could be recurring cancer or could also be scar tissue from the recent radiation treatments. But Emberly is feeling wonderful, losing the weight she had gained and even working on getting her driver's license reinstated. Her doctors were so enthusiastic about how good she looked and how alert and sharp she was with her mind. Everyone enjoyed her sense of humor as well.
It's now been 17 months since Emberly was first diagnosed with Glioblastoma Multiform (GBM) and many patients do not live much past this point. However the doctors were confident that she has a bright future and feel she might easily double the 17 months or more with her current progress. They were very careful not to offer any time predictions, but did mention that there are patients who have survived GBM for 10-15 years... and counting.
So going forward Emberly will be on a limited chemo schedule of 5 days on and 23 days off for the next year with MRIs taken every two months. Of course we'll continue to integrate natural remedies into her schedule as we have been. We are so thankful that Emberly has made such a remarkable comeback from some very scary near death moments these past few months. Please continue to lift her and the rest of our family in prayer. We cherish each moment we have with Emberly as you can imagine. In spite of all that has happened the fact she is still alive and doing so well IS a true miracle and answer to prayer for which we thank our Heavenly Father each day.
This Video Emberly sent me from the Cafe in San Monica after her early morning follow up visit with the Doctor. They were hungry as they missed breakfast to make it to her appointment. It was 11:30 am finally getting to eat.

I think that's 9T 28. Read on to the top of 9T 29, and you'll see that God has called us to raise up memorials in every city and village on the planet. And elsewhere she made clear that a memorial is a physical building, whether church, school, publishing house, or medical institutions, perhaps small and simple, that is standing for the observance of the true Sabbath.

So the earlier dream that same night isn't just talking about not sharing with our friends and neighbours. It's also talking about not doing aggressive evangelism that results in planting churches in every city and viallage, even in North America.

Southeastern California Conference is clearly in outright rebellion against the General Conference in Session...so, what should happen???

Since the Pacidfic Uniopn appears to also be in Rebellion...it would be up to the General Confernece Fall Counsel to turn the entire Pacific Union back to a Mission Territory and disband the Union Conference AND the Southeastern Conference.

Of we ever intend to openly confront this issue. the LEADESHIP needs to deal decisively with this outright rebellion. IF WE HAVE TO LOSE MEMBERSHIP. SO BE IT!!! Shoulod nnot even be a consideration. Rebellion must be quashed as was done with the Israeli's in the desert..there, the Lord opened the vaty earth to eliminate this open rebellion of Korah, et al!!! Why should we allow this rebellion while a weak General Confernce President shows no backbaone to r=deal with open rebellion!!! Does he really want to put his own salvation at risk for the failure to follow the clear and open message from the Godhead??? Does he really want to risk being on the wrong side of the wall at the end of the millenium???

It is time for decisive and bold action to meet this rebellion "HEAD ON"!!! Gailoon Arthur Joy, NAD Reporting

Since this original posting on the General Confernce in Sesion, they have yet met again and further recommended that there is no biblical basis for Women;s Ordination and have voted yet again on the issue,

Jmmedjafely following the GConference in Session, he publicly asserted his open opposition to the General Conference Decision and intended to further resist and allow women's ordination in the North American Division.

THAT PUTS HIM IN OPEN OPPOSITION TO THE GENERAL CONFERENCE IN SESSION...and now subject to the disciplinary action by the General Conference. I have heard rumblings that the Fall Council is expected to take action...FRANKLY, I do not think they have the back-bone to act decisively and do what they should do...Take the credentials of the President of the North American Division.

If the General Conference Fall Session makes no recommendation to the General Conference to discipline this open rebellion, then we must presume that Jr is no chip off the old block and does not have the leadership to deal with this open rebellion. This may be a direct influence of Mark Finlay, but regardless, the failure to deal with this will embolden  open rebellion and lead to anarchy on the issue throughout the NAD!!! Congregations will be left to their discretion on the matter and expect it to lead to open and wholesale rebellion.

I would encourage prayer on the matter but have little faith that the General Conference has the stomach for the fight and expect serious repercussions as a result!!! DIVISION WIDE

Gailon Arthur Joy, NAD REPORTER

Is it deliberate...or that new sites have simply over-whelmed this discussion? Have we lost our moral compass, or simply contemporary events have moved the discussion to more confrontational and out-spoken platforms?

Somehow, I have a sense for the fact that we are way behind contemporary issues in Seventh-day Adventist circles and much is ignored that should not be ignored...guess that message is as much to myself as to the members here.

We should give some thought to broadening the discussion to more contemporaneous issues alive and well in Adventism!!! Or are we committed to avoiding confrontational issues?

Gailon Arthur Joy

I often think of this quotation. I don't want to be one of those who is asked this question! We have 31 families on our road (about 3 miles)  and some other friends not far away. Most are Baptists or were raised Baptist and are not church-goers right now. We hope to send out an invitation to every one of them and invite them to a prophecy seminar this fall at our home. We would appreciate prayers!

But to answer your question, I don't think we can generalize, some Adventists are giving the warning, some are giving a muddled message. We need to ask ourselves, "What am I doing to warn those in my circle of influence?"

You knew! Why then did you not tell us?

The SOP tells us the following:


“In the visions of the night a very impressive scene passed before me. I saw an immense ball of fire fall among some beautiful mansions, causing their instant destruction. I heard someone say: “We knew that the judgments of God were coming upon the earth, but we did not know that they would come so soon.” Others, with agonized voices, said: “You knew! Why then did you not tell us? We did not know.” On every side I heard similar words of reproach spoken..”

Have Adventist made clear what is going to happen at the end, to the wicked and the saints. Or is the message been muddled or unclear? What does everyone think?