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Issues & Concerns Category => 3ABN => Topic started by: Johann on February 08, 2008, 08:28:50 AM
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This whole affair against Linda started with allegations made by Brenda against Linda. It has been claimed that Brenda was woken up at night by a demon, and that caused her to call her pastor to testify against Linda.
Appletree, will we see Brenda's name on the list of witnesses?
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Corrected spelling error in the topic only. - Daryl :)
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Are talking about Danny's golfing buddy?
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A demon impressed her to do that?
I could have understood it better, if an angel of the Lord, or the Holy Spirit impressed her, but a demon?
There's something wrong with that scenario.
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Johann, although I have heard this story before, something about a demon causing a rip in her suitcase?--is it really true that Brenda Walsh, the person who works with the children's programming on 3ABN, would come up with something like this?
Does Mollie Steenson have demon problems?
Any of the rest of them?
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Are talking about Danny's golfing buddy?
Yes, we are talking about Danny's golfing buddy. Linda did not notice it, as far as I know, because she was only thinking of her ministry at 3ABN. And it was Danny's golfing buddy who was visited by a demon - and the demon caused her to do her golfing buddy some favors the demon would approve of. And this is how the whole affair started.
I first noticed now that I misspelled her name on the title. . .
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Johann, although I have heard this story before, something about a demon causing a rip in her suitcase?--is it really true that Brenda Walsh, the person who works with the children's programming on 3ABN, would come up with something like this?
Does Mollie Steenson have demon problems?
Any of the rest of them?
When I found out about the demon I called Walt for a confirmation. He assured me the demon could be a real help to 3ABN.
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An interesting note:
Danny's birthday is in May. In May of 2004 Brenda had a birthday party for Danny, to which Linda was not invited and had no prior knowledge of Brenda's plans. Although it was held in the home of Danny's daughter, Melody Shelton Mundall Firestone, it was hosted and all arrangements were made by Brenda. It was apparent to those in attendeance that Brenda had more than a casual relationship with Linda's husband. Neither Danny's wife or Brenda's husband were present at the celebration. A female member of the Shelton family, who was present, considered it her responsibility to inform Linda that Brenda's behavior with Danny at the party was not appropriate between two individuals of the opposite sex who both had other spouses.
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Corrected spelling error in the topic only. - Daryl :)
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I edited every post here and corrected the spelling error in the topic title.
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In response to sister's post, it was OK for Danny, but it wasn't OK for Linda, even though Linda never did do what Danny accused her of doing, however, can we say the same for Danny?
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I have just been told over at BSDA that it is impossible for Danny to make any repairs. It would be too complicated!
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I have just been told over at BSDA that it is impossible for Danny to make any repairs. It would be too complicated!
Al things are possible with God. Maybe someone should tell Danny this - maybe his board members too. Wait, if they had thought of that a long time ago, this mess might not be around now.
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I was told more than a year ago that the one accused of golfing doesn't golf. But then Gailon told me that Brenda definitely did golf when she lived out east.
Now why would my friend have been told that the one accused of golfing doesn't golf if Brenda really does golf?
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I must assume this topic came up because it has become known that James Gilley, the current president of 3ABN, recently had a conversation with a former 3ABN supporter and parrotted the common theme: Jim stated "We were praying." "I was there with them." "She refused to give that man up." "She wasn't fired." "When she left, no one wanted her to go." Danny "wrote book long after Linda was gone." "Danny doesn't have any money." "Brenda will testify for Danny." "She is one of his main backers." "Danny begged Linda to stay."
For those interested, I have investigated the facts about the allegations and this is just another administrator parrotting Danny. He leaves the clear impression he was a witness to the problem from March to May of 2004. We have found no evidence to support the claim that he was there in this period and Gilley has NEVER spoken to Linda from February 2004 to this present day...an imperative for a pastor, ordained minister of the gospel, and now President of 3ABN, a pre-eminent member of an organization that has sued us and trashes Linda privately.
Further, the published book and 3ABN spots clearly demonstrate that THE BOOK, Ten Commandments Twice Removed, was an excerpt of Anti-Christ Agenda (look at the copyright dates) and they have repeatedly asserted that it was drafted and then edited by Shelley Quinn when she first got to 3ABN, regretfully well before Danny divorced Linda. Now, is this educated Dr of Divinity just blind to the obvious or does he have 3ABNitis: repeat Danny and only Danny and it will become the truth, despite the evidence.
He has a duty to at least KNOW THE TRUTH and to TELL THE TRUTH and not to trash someone he has never spoken to.
Two additional very important points that relate to this thread:
1) If Brenda will testify for Danny, why is she not on the their witness list???
2) Brenda is actually on our witness list!!!
One must wonder if they have even read the transcription of a Brenda statement we already have transcribed, notarized and given to them as part of our discovery????
We look forward to Brenda Walsh's testimony and a few other "REAL" witnesses as well!!!
Gailon Arthur Joy
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I must assume this topic came up because it has become known that James Gilley, the current president of 3ABN, recently had a conversation with a former 3ABN supporter and parrotted the common theme: Jim stated "We were praying." "I was there with them." "She refused to give that man up." "She wasn't fired." "When she left, no one wanted her to go." Danny "wrote book long after Linda was gone." "Danny doesn't have any money." "Brenda will testify for Danny." "She is one of his main backers." "Danny begged Linda to stay."
For those interested, I have investigated the facts about the allegations and this is just another administrator parrotting Danny. He leaves the clear impression he was a witness to the problem from March to May of 2004. We have found no evidence to support the claim that he was there in this period and Gilley has NEVER spoken to Linda from February 2004 to this present day...an imperative for a pastor, ordained minister of the gospel, and now President of 3ABN, a pre-eminent member of an organization that has sued us and trashes Linda privately.
Further, the published book and 3ABN spots clearly demonstrate that THE BOOK, Ten Commandments Twice Removed, was an excerpt of Anti-Christ Agenda (look at the copyright dates) and they have repeatedly asserted that it was drafted and then edited by Shelley Quinn when she first got to 3ABN, regretfully well before Danny divorced Linda. Now, is this educated Dr of Divinity just blind to the obvious or does he have 3ABNitis: repeat Danny and only Danny and it will become the truth, despite the evidence.
He has a duty to at least KNOW THE TRUTH and to TELL THE TRUTH and not to trash someone he has never spoken to.
Sounds like the truth, the truth and nothing like the truth and the poor guy still doesn't even acknowledge that he's been fooled!
Two additional very important points that relate to this thread:
1) If Brenda will testify for Danny, why is she not on the their witness list???
2) Brenda is actually on our witness list!!!
One must wonder if they have even read the transcription of a Brenda statement we already have transcribed, notarized and given to them as part of our discovery????
We look forward to Brenda Walsh's testimony and a few other "REAL" witnesses as well!!!
Gailon Arthur Joy
Now, that is intersting news. Wonder what Danny and 3abn Board's reaction to that is?
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I must assume this topic came up because it has become known that James Gilley, the current president of 3ABN, recently had a conversation with a former 3ABN supporter and parrotted the common theme: Jim stated "We were praying." "I was there with them." "She refused to give that man up." "She wasn't fired." "When she left, no one wanted her to go." Danny "wrote book long after Linda was gone." "Danny doesn't have any money." "Brenda will testify for Danny." "She is one of his main backers." "Danny begged Linda to stay."
For those interested, I have investigated the facts about the allegations and this is just another administrator parrotting Danny. He leaves the clear impression he was a witness to the problem from March to May of 2004. We have found no evidence to support the claim that he was there in this period and Gilley has NEVER spoken to Linda from February 2004 to this present day...an imperative for a pastor, ordained minister of the gospel, and now President of 3ABN, a pre-eminent member of an organization that has sued us and trashes Linda privately.
Further, the published book and 3ABN spots clearly demonstrate that THE BOOK, Ten Commandments Twice Removed, was an excerpt of Anti-Christ Agenda (look at the copyright dates) and they have repeatedly asserted that it was drafted and then edited by Shelley Quinn when she first got to 3ABN, regretfully well before Danny divorced Linda. Now, is this educated Dr of Divinity just blind to the obvious or does he have 3ABNitis: repeat Danny and only Danny and it will become the truth, despite the evidence.
He has a duty to at least KNOW THE TRUTH and to TELL THE TRUTH and not to trash someone he has never spoken to.
Two additional very important points that relate to this thread:
1) If Brenda will testify for Danny, why is she not on the their witness list???
2) Brenda is actually on our witness list!!!
One must wonder if they have even read the transcription of a Brenda statement we already have transcribed, notarized and given to them as part of our discovery????
We look forward to Brenda Walsh's testimony and a few other "REAL" witnesses as well!!!
Gailon Arthur Joy
You have a Brenda statement you haven't shared with us?
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You have an open invitation to the Trial on the merits, or more precisely, meritless case. We have thousands of documents and e-mails that have never been shared.
An example would be the 80% of the Nick Miller document that we partially released
some months back. Has it not occurred to anyone that there had to be much more
for us to need to know just where Nick REALLY stood these days. You really think that we included the portion by Miller declaring it confidential by mistake? Thanks to PB we
got the response we needed to have Nick demonstrate he qualifies as an adversarial witness, not that this is the only plan for Miller. He has loads of information and most of it is no longer covered by attorney client privilege.
We are preparing for a trial. We gain information daily that underscores just how meritless this action was. But that does not mean you should simply let them walk on a motion to dismiss. Far better to engage and defeat the adversary decisively.
Gailon Arthur Joy
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You have an open invitation to the Trial on the merits, or more precisely, meritless case. We have thousands of documents and e-mails that have never been shared.
An example would be the 80% of the Nick Miller document that we partially released
some months back. Has it not occurred to anyone that there had to be much more
for us to need to know just where Nick REALLY stood these days. You really think that we included the portion by Miller declaring it confidential by mistake? Thanks to PB we got the response we needed to have Nick demonstrate he qualifies as an adversarial witness, not that this is the only plan for Miller. He has loads of information and most of it is no longer covered by attorney client privilege.
We are preparing for a trial. We gain information daily that underscores just how meritless this action was. But that does not mean you should simply let them walk on a motion to dismiss. Far better to engage and defeat the adversary decisively.
Gailon Arthur Joy
Thanks for shedding some light on reasons behind publishing the Nick Miller letter that caused so much controversy!
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An example would be the 80% of the Nick Miller document that we partially released
some months back. Has it not occurred to anyone that there had to be much more
for us to need to know just where Nick REALLY stood these days. You really think that we included the portion by Miller declaring it confidential by mistake? Thanks to PB we got the response we needed to have Nick demonstrate he qualifies as an adversarial witness, not that this is the only plan for Miller. He has loads of information and most of it is no longer covered by attorney client privilege.
Gailon Arthur Joy
Thanks for shedding some light on reasons behind publishing the Nick Miller letter that caused so much controversy!
No wonder so much blur in an attempt to conceal the importance of this action. It seems like that even of one of two opposed it so vehemently at the time, they really did GAJ a great favor and improved his situation.
It appears that document reveals how Nick Miller eventually became one more victim of being dismissed from the services of 3ABN for attempting to do suggest improvements - and a victim of deceit.
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Here is a post from BSDA
Statrei
QUOTE(Noahswife @ Feb 10 2008, 10:31 AM) *
I agree with almost everything here AZA with the exception that life has taught me that the truth does not always shake out.
And people tend to forget that the purpose of American jurisprudence is not to find the truth.
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So what is the purpose of 3ABN suing? "Truth does not always shake out."
And what is the purpose of American jurisprudence? To show who has the best lawyers?
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Sadly, Johann, I believe you have hit the nail on the head here.
And what is the purpose of American jurisprudence? To show who has the best lawyers?
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We are preparing for a trial. We gain information daily that underscores just how meritless this action was. But that does not mean you should simply let them walk on a motion to dismiss. Far better to engage and defeat the adversary decisively.
Gailon Arthur Joy
Can't wait to see all that information!
Or is there some chance it will all be buried?
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It takes a while to study 7000 documents - if that number is correct?
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It takes a while to study 7000 documents - if that number is correct?
7000 and growing? ???
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It takes a lot of work. Why are these men willing to do all of this, in what to some seem a futile attempt? What do they have to gain by their defense against a huge battery of lawyers, costing millions of dollars?
Does justice ever have access to such huge amounts?
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Justice has access to THE HALLS OF JUSTICE from above. That is all we need!!! Good practice for the trials dead ahead against far greater powers and principalities!!!
I am certainly planning to be ready and I think Mr Pickle will be ready!!! We know that The Lord God is always ready!!!
Gailon Arthur Joy
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Matthew 10:19
But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
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Matthew 10:19
But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
Very appropriate...we have oral arguments on March 4!!!
Gailon Arthur Joy
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Three years ago. Any further development?
Matthew 10:19
But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
Very appropriate...we have oral arguments on March 4!!!
Gailon Arthur Joy
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I received this yesterday:
I have this question: Did John Lomacang, Kay Kuzma, Brenda Walsh, ever apologize to Linda for dragging her through the mud? Every time I see them on TV I wonder if people such as the above, and others, have made things right with Linda!? I doubt that Danny ever will. How about Walt Thompson?
Just curious...
~e
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Considering the history, no I doubt Linda did or ever will recieve any kind of apology from any of those folk you listed Johann. They are talking about forgetting the past and moving on to future. Usual denial talk. So sad.
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I am not aware that any one of the party's listed has ever recognized, privately or publicly, that they have sinned against Linda Sue Shelton. I have seen some stories decidedly change and become ever more salacious in an effort to build some strength into the allegations and have directly challenged some but none has yet come forward to do battle.
The most egregious of the players is clearly Brenda and I would love to see her step forward for a good cat-fight. She is a liar and a co-conspirator with Danny Lee Shelton and there is MORE THAN ADEQUATE PROOF...I have addressed the issue directly and decisively on several occasions, even to contact with her husband, but my challenge has gone unanswered.
They know the truth is out and many others know it and as we move along in history more and more of the allegations are proven accurate. The coming lawsuit will reveal many things we never disclosed and more than even we knew in 2007. The collusion between Danny Lee Shelton and Bradford Walker over more than a decade and a half will become more and more clear and just how beholden each is to the other.
I am sure this is one battle even DLS and 3ABN are doing everything to avoid here at the last moment!!! Unfortunately, they have inadequate funds to settle this one without a load of participation by Risk Services and the wealthier directors...think Danny will survive this one??? He is really costing them a fortune...but it has happened before and the miscreants emerge later with hand in the til yet again!!!
Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter
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This note was written by a cancer patient who is worried. Will that worry be relieved?
I received this yesterday:
I have this question: Did John Lomacang, Kay Kuzma, Brenda Walsh, ever apologize to Linda for dragging her through the mud? Every time I see them on TV I wonder if people such as the above, and others, have made things right with Linda!? I doubt that Danny ever will. How about Walt Thompson?
Just curious...
~e
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Yes, at the end of the Millenium when they "burn, baby, burn!!!"
Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter
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Now it should be about time for a settlement with Linda.
Will there be a reformation and revival unless all the lies by Brenda, Danny, John Lomacang, Walt Thompson, and others will be confessed and settled? Now they need to make a settlement with Linda before it is too late.
Do the people at the "smut" site think they are making everything right with their current silence? I hope it is reflection before confession, and that the delay will not be too long. Time is short.
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I do not forsee a day when this pridefilled cabal will ever confess, repent and reform...just too dug in to, and too much invested in, the lie tp be able to back down and confess the truth. Thier conscience is most likely so seared they may have crossed the line into unforegivable sin.
Brenda, in particular, has had warning at the time she perpetrated her crime and has been challenged several times since. She has shown a propensity to grow the exageration to ever more insidiously support her story and build her story to justify her cold hearted joinder with Danny Lee Shelton to undermine and destroy Linda Sue Shelton and to propogate their own careers and public standing at the expense of innocense. Her conscience once plagued her as the apertment and closet incident clearly demonstrate...but years later she finds it essential to ignore the pang of conscience has long since been quenched to serve her self preservation and her self importance. But time is now against her and opportunity to make things right is passing her by.
I am telling you most assuredly they will go down in thier pride and arise to face their fate post millenium and will just assuredly "burn, bady, burn!!!"
Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter
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Now it should be about time for a settlement with Linda.
Will there be a reformation and revival unless all the lies by Brenda,
- - - I hope it is reflection before confession, and that the delay will not be too long. Time is short.
Is the Sun of revival appearing in the horizon? There seems to be a dawning in sight.
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the greatest dawn in history is the one preserved by Francis scott Keye when he wrote "the dawns early light, gave proof that our flag was still there."
Maybe, Johann, the unholy cabal will see the light and let us trust that even they will see the flag is still there, and that WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP!!!
Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter