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Issues & Concerns Category => 3ABN => Topic started by: Bob Pickle on January 31, 2008, 05:08:27 AM

Title: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Bob Pickle on January 31, 2008, 05:08:27 AM
AppleTree,

I was told by two people who were present at the last hearing or conference in Linda's marital property case that Danny's paperwork identified Linda as "Tammy." AppleTree, do you know how that mistake came about? Was Danny or his attorney thinking about Tammy Larson or Tammy Shelton Chance, or what that simply a slam against Linda? Or was it a mistake by his attorney?

I was also told that Danny was claiming to be out of money. Is that true? If so, what happened? Did he buy too many corvettes? Is his new home too fancy? Did he start paying back 3ABN for the money or goods he took from them over the years, including the 1998 board-approved real estate deal? Or have fines from the IRS bled him dry?

I was also told that Danny wanted Linda to pay him thousands of dollars since he had been keeping her horses for her. But if he won't give her any royalty money, why isn't he willing to call it even?

AppleTree, when is Danny could to let Linda know how much royalty he earned on the TCTR book, since it was a work in progress before the divorce, wasn't it?
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Sister on January 31, 2008, 06:44:26 AM
For the uninformed Tammy Shelton Chance is the sister of Danny Shelton and Tammy Larson is an employee of Danny Shelton with whom, it is believed, he had an affair during his marriage to Linda. Tammy Larson was one of Linda Shelton's best friends.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Johann on January 31, 2008, 07:09:57 AM
For the uninformed Tammy Shelton Chance is the sister of Danny Shelton and Tammy Larson is an employee of Danny Shelton with whom, it is believed, he had an affair during his marriage to Linda. Tammy Larson was one of Linda Shelton's best friends.

And Tammy's husband, who was the electronic engineer, was suddenly replaced by Moses Primo. Her parents owned a farm. They came to 3ABN and were permitted to build a house on 3ABN property provided they make two apartments downstairs as guest apartments. They were also to provide breakfast for visitors. The Larsons are very friendly and hospitable people, whose hospitality I have greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Chrissie on January 31, 2008, 01:08:27 PM

And Tammy's husband, who was the electronic engineer, was suddenly replaced by Moses Primo. Her parents owned a farm. They came to 3ABN and were permitted to build a house on 3ABN property provided they make two apartments downstairs as guest apartments. They were also to provide breakfast for visitors. The Larsons are very friendly and hospitable people, whose hospitality I have greatly appreciated.

Is there a pattern here, that when one has too much inside information on Danny, they are 'replaced'?
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Bob Pickle on January 31, 2008, 03:16:32 PM
Why was he replaced?

(I was not referring to anything unkosher when I asked if Danny was referring to one of those Tammys. Those are the only 3ABN Tammys I'm aware of.)
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on January 31, 2008, 05:02:54 PM
Is this something new unravelling?
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Johann on February 03, 2008, 09:32:03 PM
Why was he replaced?

(I was not referring to anything unkosher when I asked if Danny was referring to one of those Tammys. Those are the only 3ABN Tammys I'm aware of.)

As far as I recall he was never fired. He only discovered that suddenly Danny had found another engineer to do his job, so I suppose he realized Danny could be unpredictable.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on February 13, 2008, 09:00:23 AM
If he wasn't fired, then what happened to him and what is he doing now?
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Johann on February 13, 2008, 11:50:55 AM
Since he is not directly part of the present problem I think we will just let him stay at home in piece. Seems like he was near Thompsonville back in 2004.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on February 13, 2008, 01:58:12 PM
He could be a valuable asset in relation to the present problem, as you worded it.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Gailon Arthur Joy on February 14, 2008, 07:08:18 PM
Clarence Larson, the original engineer for 3ABN, took a position with Clear Channel and my recollection is that he retired in 2006. He and Tammy built a home on a piece of land Charlie Clark (Tammy Clark Larson's father) bought a couple of years ago and subdivided to become a "Clark Village" of sorts. As far as I know, Mr and Mrs Charlie Clark are still very vigorous supporters of 3ABN. They have contributed thousands of hours of voluntary time and they are reported to have given Millions to 3ABN over the past twenty years.

Gailon Arthur Joy
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Johann on February 15, 2008, 01:48:19 AM
Irmgard and I left a suitcase with kitchen utensils or other gadgets with the Charlie Clarks when we returned to Norway in 2004, expecting to be back in the near future. Little did we realize we would not return.

Such is life.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Snoopy on March 07, 2008, 09:01:14 PM
Seems like I just read somewhere that Danny spent $96,000 to purchase the land he is building his house on.  But he claims he is out of money??  I also seem to recall that Brandy wasn't listed on the deed...??     :dunno:    I feel really bad for her.  I think she needs our prayers.


AppleTree,

I was told by two people who were present at the last hearing or conference in Linda's marital property case that Danny's paperwork identified Linda as "Tammy." AppleTree, do you know how that mistake came about? Was Danny or his attorney thinking about Tammy Larson or Tammy Shelton Chance, or what that simply a slam against Linda? Or was it a mistake by his attorney?

I was also told that Danny was claiming to be out of money. Is that true? If so, what happened? Did he buy too many corvettes? Is his new home too fancy? Did he start paying back 3ABN for the money or goods he took from them over the years, including the 1998 board-approved real estate deal? Or have fines from the IRS bled him dry?

I was also told that Danny wanted Linda to pay him thousands of dollars since he had been keeping her horses for her. But if he won't give her any royalty money, why isn't he willing to call it even?

AppleTree, when is Danny could to let Linda know how much royalty he earned on the TCTR book, since it was a work in progress before the divorce, wasn't it?
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Johann on July 26, 2010, 08:08:52 AM
Seems like I just read somewhere that Danny spent $96,000 to purchase the land he is building his house on.  But he claims he is out of money??  I also seem to recall that Brandy wasn't listed on the deed...??     :dunno:    I feel really bad for her.  I think she needs our prayers.


AppleTree,

I was told by two people who were present at the last hearing or conference in Linda's marital property case that Danny's paperwork identified Linda as "Tammy." AppleTree, do you know how that mistake came about? Was Danny or his attorney thinking about Tammy Larson or Tammy Shelton Chance, or what that simply a slam against Linda? Or was it a mistake by his attorney?

I was also told that Danny was claiming to be out of money. Is that true? If so, what happened? Did he buy too many corvettes? Is his new home too fancy? Did he start paying back 3ABN for the money or goods he took from them over the years, including the 1998 board-approved real estate deal? Or have fines from the IRS bled him dry?

I was also told that Danny wanted Linda to pay him thousands of dollars since he had been keeping her horses for her. But if he won't give her any royalty money, why isn't he willing to call it even?

AppleTree, when is Danny could to let Linda know how much royalty he earned on the TCTR book, since it was a work in progress before the divorce, wasn't it?
:-\
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Pat Williams on July 26, 2010, 09:11:48 AM
Do you all know the definition of "Gossip"?

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www.onelook.com
noun:  a report (often malicious) about the behavior of other people

 MSN Encarta:   
gossip
   
   
gos·sip [ góssip ]


noun  (plural gos·sips)
Definition:
 
1. conversation about personal matters: conversation about the personal details of other people's lives, whether rumor or fact, especially when malicious

2. casual conversation: informal conversation or writing about recent and often personal events

3. habitual talker: somebody who habitually discusses the personal details of others' lives

Did you all know that the Apostle Paul identified gossip as Satanic? I just read this the other day:

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In chapter 5 of 1 Timothy Paul urges younger widows to get married and not to become idle gossips and busybodies. This sounds very “human,” but Paul links it to satanic activity: “Therefore, I want younger widows to get married, bear children, keep house, and give the enemy no occasion for reproach; for some have already turned aside to follow Satan” (1 Timothy 5:14-15). Imagine this. Paul refers to gossiping as turning aside to follow Satan. Now who would have ever considered gossip to be satanic? Paul does.



You all know that some don't see your point of view nor hear or accept what you say. Question is are they blind and deaf, or do they maybe know more than yourselves? Either way, the word of God explains what to do...

So, before you all start knee jerking and getting your underwear in a bunch or reacting defensively or in an offensive manner because of my questions here. Think! Because God's word does say you are to rebuke sin, but it also says how to do that and how how not to do that:

 Lev 19:14   Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I [am] the LORD.
Lev 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: [but] in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
Lev 19:16 Thou shalt not go up and down [as] a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I [am] the LORD.
Lev 19:17Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
 Lev 19:18   Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.


Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear [thee, then] take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Mat 18:17    And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell [it] unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

["Heathens and Publicans" AKA- the lost who God loves and who Jesus did not come to condemn but to seek and save. Those who we are also to love and who the gospel commission and good news is meant for. ]

Pro 11:13    A talebearer revealeth secrets: but he that is of a faithful spirit concealeth the matter.

Pro 26:20    Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out: so where there is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth.


All I ask is that you members here think, and pray, long and hard, before speaking further.

Mat 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by [his] fruit.
Mat 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Mat 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
Mat 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
Mat 12:37    For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Serious business...
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Adam on July 26, 2010, 09:29:17 AM
"Pat Williams" said:   Do you all know the definition of "Gossip"?

Mighty big words coming from you "Pat Williams".
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Adam on July 26, 2010, 09:31:44 AM
For the uninformed Tammy Shelton Chance is the sister of Danny Shelton and Tammy Larson is an employee of Danny Shelton with whom, it is believed, he had an affair during his marriage to Linda. Tammy Larson  was one of Linda Shelton's best friends.

That isn't the only person she has had an affair with in that family either!
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Pat Williams on July 26, 2010, 09:49:21 AM
For the uninformed Tammy Shelton Chance is the sister of Danny Shelton and Tammy Larson is an employee of Danny Shelton with whom, it is believed, he had an affair during his marriage to Linda. Tammy Larson  was one of Linda Shelton's best friends.

That isn't the only person she has had an affair with in that family either!

You don't know anybody being talked about (accused) You have no facts, no testimony, no witness to give here, and are only attached to an individual whom that is also true of, so your words here are worth nothing. May the Lord rebuke you, and send the H.S. to convict you, for eyes have not seen, and ears have not heard all the wonderful things he has in store for his people.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Adam on July 26, 2010, 09:53:06 AM
For the uninformed Tammy Shelton Chance is the sister of Danny Shelton and Tammy Larson is an employee of Danny Shelton with whom, it is believed, he had an affair during his marriage to Linda. Tammy Larson  was one of Linda Shelton's best friends.

That isn't the only person she has had an affair with in that family either!

You don't know anybody being talked about (accused) You have no facts, no testimony, no witness to give here, and are only attached to an individual whom that is also true of, so your words here are worth nothing. May the Lord rebuke you, and send the H.S. to convict you, for eyes have not seen, and ears have not heard all the wonderful things he has in store for his people.
Ask Brad Walker how well he knows Tammy Larson.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Pat Williams on July 26, 2010, 09:57:21 AM
For the uninformed Tammy Shelton Chance is the sister of Danny Shelton and Tammy Larson is an employee of Danny Shelton with whom, it is believed, he had an affair during his marriage to Linda. Tammy Larson  was one of Linda Shelton's best friends.

That isn't the only person she has had an affair with in that family either!

You don't know anybody being talked about (accused) You have no facts, no testimony, no witness to give here, and are only attached to an individual whom that is also true of, so your words here are worth nothing. May the Lord rebuke you, and send the H.S. to convict you, for eyes have not seen, and ears have not heard all the wonderful things he has in store for his people.
Ask Brad Walker how well he knows Tammy Larson.  :thumbsup:

The real question is how well you know either. And the answer is you don't know either of them, so the conclusion is you shouldn't say anything and have no call to, and your arguments are worthless except to prove you just run your mouth, condemn others without facts or evidence and can't be counted on to tell the truth or verify anything.

If you were smart you'd stop ruining your own credibility and reputation.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Adam on July 26, 2010, 10:00:12 AM
Re-read your post:

You don't know anybody being talked about (accused) You have no facts, no testimony, no witness to give here, and are only attached to an individual whom that is also true of, so your words here are worth nothing. May the Lord rebuke you, and send the H.S. to convict you, for eyes have not seen, and ears have not heard all the wonderful things he has in store for his people.

That isn't true. I guess you wasn't aware that he worked at 3ABN for a while was you? So your statement there is void.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Adam on July 26, 2010, 10:03:36 AM
Hmmm. "Pat Williams" I believe you just threatened me.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Pat Williams on July 26, 2010, 10:07:58 AM
Re-read your post:

You don't know anybody being talked about (accused) You have no facts, no testimony, no witness to give here, and are only attached to an individual whom that is also true of, so your words here are worth nothing. May the Lord rebuke you, and send the H.S. to convict you, for eyes have not seen, and ears have not heard all the wonderful things he has in store for his people.

That isn't true. I guess you wasn't aware that he worked at 3ABN for a while was you? So your statement there is void.

He? If you are speaking of Alex, yes I know he worked part time one summer but that has nothing to do with this accusation.

I guess you don't get it. You may be speaking for Alex, and posting for him, but you are putting your faith in him and would be better off letting him speak for himself and allowing  him to take accountability for what he says himself, and in putting your faith in God. (There's always an enabler, but they too are accountable and guilty...)
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Pat Williams on July 26, 2010, 10:09:48 AM
Hmmm. "Pat Williams" I believe you just threatened me.
NO, I didn't.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Adam on July 26, 2010, 10:11:02 AM
You are correct it has nothing to do with that accusation. I speak on my own free-will thank you. Do you? I doubt it. I was merely saying that your statment is incorrect.


You stated:

(There's always an enabler, but they too are accountable and guilty...)

So who's your enabler, "Pat Williams"?
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: princessdi on July 26, 2010, 07:00:07 PM
Ok, so do we sit and wait for Tammy to show up...........under an assumed ID, of course.     This is just wild!!!
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 26, 2010, 10:36:23 PM
Well, why not??  Wild??? you sure got that right.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: princessdi on July 26, 2010, 10:43:46 PM
Ok, Tinka?

Now, I welcomed all of you newbies, but where in the world did you all come from and why?  Why now?  I'm jes' askin'    :dunno: 
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 27, 2010, 05:17:33 AM
Where did we all come from?? I came from wondering about the explosive actions of 3abn when finding out stories that I intended to see what is true and what is false  and where I and my family sent money to.  The documents, emails gave up enough info to provide an outsiders view of one big "taking operation" under non profit and non denominational claims. The rest of the sagas are not surprising as you can figure are a bunch of "bed bugs" under "covers".
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: GRAT on July 27, 2010, 09:38:57 AM
The real question is are they all really "newbies" , I's just askin.   :hamster:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Pat Williams on July 27, 2010, 10:32:18 AM
The real question is are they all really "newbies" , I's just askin.   :hamster:

I'm not. I have been posting here for the longest time as 3abn_defender, but I kept getting grief about it so I changed forum name. ( all my old posts are still linked to me in my profile) I'm sorry to have caused confusion.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Murcielago on July 27, 2010, 11:23:07 AM
Well I kinda liked the name because it was shortened to 3D, which is actually quite cool.

I'm not. I have been posting here for the longest time as 3abn_defender, but I kept getting grief about it so I changed forum name. ( all my old posts are still linked to me in my profile) I'm sorry to have caused confusion.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: GRAT on July 27, 2010, 11:31:33 AM
The real question is are they all really "newbies" , I's just askin.   :hamster:

I'm not. I have been posting here for the longest time as 3abn_defender, but I kept getting grief about it so I changed forum name. ( all my old posts are still linked to me in my profile) I'm sorry to have caused confusion.

So, if I google your name will I find out your personal information?
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Pat Williams on July 27, 2010, 11:36:10 AM
The real question is are they all really "newbies" , I's just askin.   :hamster:

I'm not. I have been posting here for the longest time as 3abn_defender, but I kept getting grief about it so I changed forum name. ( all my old posts are still linked to me in my profile) I'm sorry to have caused confusion.

So, if I google your name will I find out your personal information?

lol  Probably, but I know you would never do that ;)
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 27, 2010, 04:30:05 PM
The real question is are they all really "newbies" , I's just askin.   :hamster:

I'm not. I have been posting here for the longest time as 3abn_defender, but I kept getting grief about it so I changed forum name. ( all my old posts are still linked to me in my profile) I'm sorry to have caused confusion.

Hmm, feel pretty proud of myself, I did not know that but I felt all the verbage and same ole same ole characterization was the same as 3d talk and pmailed someone thats what I felt was the same.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Artiste on July 28, 2010, 11:52:09 AM
How can you tell the different 3D's from each other, Tinka?
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 28, 2010, 12:55:37 PM
How can you tell the different 3D's from each other, Tinka?

I do not know if I can explain it but it's like you can tell a familiar walk when someone is in the house and you don't see which one of the family it is. You know by there walk. It takes a few times when one posts under a different name, but all of a sudden you match the same verbage and the same characterizations of their intended agendas when they try coming in from different angles. About 2-3 times and then you just know. I am keen on English and a certain way that people write and talk. Di, would not be able to fool me what so ever. When EGW is quoted or a reading is done by a preacher, I know if misquotes are out of context or I know if words are added or taken away or mixed. I very quickly found that the Reformers are top dogs in doing this.  There magazines I actually took and followed word for word and was appalled to what they do. Half of one quote mingled with another to get their point across.  I've read alot and mostly when I read EGW I went into it not so much at first what she wrote but how she wrote. Was she really inspired. Yes, I drew my own conclusion. I read mostly to find out how an author writes. Although, I do not spend much time on my own correct verbage as my day is very busy and even late at night so always in a hurry, I can tell peoples education on how they write. I probably write like no education (laugh) cause I do not take the time. but I can tell that sister is a very good writer, educated from reading and refined. I enjoy reading Gailon when he gets on it. and Bob is very patient but persistant in what he believes and how he delivers. I would be able to tell them right a way and in fact I have sort of thought or wondered if they already come in to post under different name but have not really thought it mattered at this point as their agenda is the same.  and then a new poster that is very conservative in speaking may also sound a lot like Bob. I have not accomplished his patience with some of the idiot stuff they come back on him for. and Johann is always the same, stable, questioning and mind provoking.  I don't believe the Dr. is lying either.  and btw, I know you know what I mean. ?  and then there is the victims, and I hear it with their posts.  3d has had tale tell signs of what we all know. It comes out with the posting which is now called Cindy then there is  Ian. Hmmm
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: princessdi on July 28, 2010, 02:19:12 PM
LOL!! I can't stand you for this one, Grat!!!  We know that some are and some aren't.  I was asking the true bewbies, though.


The real question is are they all really "newbies" , I's just askin.   :hamster:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: childoftheking on July 28, 2010, 03:40:04 PM
One or two with "multiple personalities" trying to seem there are more supporters than there really are?
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: GRAT on July 28, 2010, 03:50:58 PM
On the lighter side Tinka, when I read your last post I misread the first misquotes as mosquitoes.  I was going WHAT?  (Do you know how hard it is to find a word in the dictionary when you are looking for mas,mes, mis but not mos?)  Also I have noticed in several defender posts that they will make the same grammatical mistake over and over.  Not under tho same name.  Started way back on BSDA and have gone through probably 5 or 6 different names since then.

Di, I figured you were but couldn't resist.  Welcome to all the real newbies.  :purr:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 28, 2010, 06:24:34 PM
On the lighter side Tinka, when I read your last post I misread the first misquotes as mosquitoes.  I was going WHAT?  (Do you know how hard it is to find a word in the dictionary when you are looking for mas,mes, mis but not mos?)  Also I have noticed in several defender posts that they will make the same grammatical mistake over and over.  Not under tho same name.  Started way back on BSDA and have gone through probably 5 or 6 different names since then.

Di, I figured you were but couldn't resist.  Welcome to all the real newbies.  :purr:

lol of Grat, I do that sometimes and sometimes I just make up some of my own words when I get going and they aren't in the dictionary either but I figure there are some ole county women that is old is me and they understand lol.  So I know for sure without doubt that I could not get away with a new name lol. I think I have just had just too many children, so many grandchildren and greatgrandchildren and have to speak in many different era"s. About the only time I speak with adults is some neighbors, front porch visitors and here on the post and at church when I can go. Not in business anymore so that left me a jibbering I guess. But I am seriously thinking of getting back in business with some great ideas. I wished I could find a nice consession stand with grill, refrigeration and something nice --I can set right by my house in a little "No business" around community & 4 corner. middle of town. We are at a place that is Zoned for business and it is a very old time route with tremendous traffic, but my idea can be a first on the market cause nobody else has my recipe. It is a sandwich that my neighbors says that is the best thing they ever tasted and it is not meat. But you can't tell it and it is not made from soy or gluten.A bar owner wanted me to supply him but I won't do it unless I know how it is fixed and put it together under my direction and I won't go there either. When I cook it the smell and aroma floats around our little town. All meat eaters can't tell the difference. I know how to make it as fast food. I have a real catchy name for it too. But who knows what is in store and what the Lord has us doing. 
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Murcielago on July 28, 2010, 06:52:28 PM
Tinka, you speak from many eras and I have grown to appreciate and enjoy that. We don't often agree on specifics, but in many ways we agree in principle. I speak from many cultures, countries, and languages, and can understand the wild abandon that sometimes comes with that. I try hard to spell correctly in American English, but my early education and background often overrides, especially in intense moments. So as I watch your writing, I grow to value you more and more. You represent much that no one knows or understands anymore. As an avid student of history, I recognize so much of what I have read and studied as I read what you write... You are like a living treasure trove of history. Don't take that badly. My mom is too. She is 89 years old, 40 some grandkids, and 20 some great grandkids, and a 2nd gen SDA. She grew up living a few doors down from HMS Richards Jr, and as I read what you write, I have to chuckle, because you are waaayyyy to much like my mom.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 28, 2010, 08:18:06 PM

Thank you so much George and it gives me a little more hope for myself as all I wanted was to be a good mom. Sounds as if your mother is much blessed. Believe me with your mother's family she has been given much insight to many patterns to deal with and knows much from much experience. But George, we have had to go through it and your mother being 89 only the body grows tired but not the mind as from all the connected lives given to us has been done evidently under the Lords gifts and the trials of it.  Could we get through it??? God must have chose us to be responsible for many even though we did not think we could get through it but pray every day that we can or could.  I am not so sure that I have withstood all the patterns of life and to deal with them the best but on the other hand your mother and I have been definitely given the experience of it that the only thing we have left to do is pass it on. and soon George it all falls in place even for you (smile) as you get to that place in this short life. Realizing that your pattern is much different in travel, culture, language and background is another gift for you to use and your able to draw from it in future situations. sometimes it is confusing or seems not what you want in life but always the purpose comes along and then you know where God preplanned in your life we just must do to the best of our knowledge. You know George, what I had planned for my life is so different then what I got. lol  I had planned on being a nurse, or a concert pianist.

I had the strangest happening in my life that you may not even believe what I might say but it is so true. When young, I had dreams, dreams that was so real and I still can't believe why this was. I would dream that I played the piano of which I do very little in hymns and easy stuff as I taught myself what I know, but in my dreams I played extremely well in the the concert music. I dreamed every note and wrote all my music and during the dream knew every key and the music was so beautiful and I was so engrossed with it. I knew no time frame other then just playing and enjoying the beauty of music. It was so instilled in me and it was so real. When I hear someone else play it happens again.  Then I woke up and could not remember what I played and wanted that music to be for real and although while playing I knew every note and placed every finger over the keys, I could not understand why I could not go and repeat all that was given in my dreams when I woke. I would go to the piano and...nothing I could not do it.  Never understood this thing but have never forgotten it. I would have just done this and only this. What happened here? I had a Soprano voice and sang, but my throat was injured . My life took other turns and here I am. I learned to love the land, farming, my children, and many days I did not think I could make it. Of course SDA has been big background for me too. My Great Great Grandmother sat on the lap of the Queen of England as my grandparents were missionaries to England 5 generations ago.  

So tired from todays work but this gave me a very good feeling knowing your heart is alert for wanting right things to come and be. My best wishes and prayers for you.

Edited for added thought of 5 generations ago.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: GRAT on July 28, 2010, 09:20:21 PM
On the lighter side Tinka, when I read your last post I misread the first misquotes as mosquitoes.  I was going WHAT?  (Do you know how hard it is to find a word in the dictionary when you are looking for mas,mes, mis but not mos?)  Also I have noticed in several defender posts that they will make the same grammatical mistake over and over.  Not under tho same name.  Started way back on BSDA and have gone through probably 5 or 6 different names since then.

Di, I figured you were but couldn't resist.  Welcome to all the real newbies.  :purr:

lol of Grat, I do that sometimes and sometimes I just make up some of my own words when I get going and they aren't in the dictionary either but I figure there are some ole county women that is old is me and they understand lol.  So I know for sure without doubt that I could not get away with a new name lol. I think I have just had just too many children, so many grandchildren and greatgrandchildren and have to speak in many different era"s. About the only time I speak with adults is some neighbors, front porch visitors and here on the post and at church when I can go. Not in business anymore so that left me a jibbering I guess. But I am seriously thinking of getting back in business with some great ideas. I wished I could find a nice consession stand with grill, refrigeration and something nice --I can set right by my house in a little "No business" around community & 4 corner. middle of town. We are at a place that is Zoned for business and it is a very old time route with tremendous traffic, but my idea can be a first on the market cause nobody else has my recipe. It is a sandwich that my neighbors says that is the best thing they ever tasted and it is not meat. But you can't tell it and it is not made from soy or gluten.A bar owner wanted me to supply him but I won't do it unless I know how it is fixed and put it together under my direction and I won't go there either. When I cook it the smell and aroma floats around our little town. All meat eaters can't tell the difference. I know how to make it as fast food. I have a real catchy name for it too. But who knows what is in store and what the Lord has us doing. 

Wow, that sounds interesting and could be fun.  Sounds like you need a little trailer set up to grill and serve.  You must have a lot of energy.  I am listening to a book and the lady found a sampler that said "It is never too late to be what you could have been". I like that.  I love recipes and cooking.  If you ever feel the need to share your recipe with someone who would not be in competition with you keep me in mind.  Keep posting the voice of reason.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 29, 2010, 05:03:12 AM
I love recipes too, but I also like to create them myself.  Last fall after the garden I decided to do a little old time favorites like a really good carmel corn, turtles, granola with dried fruit, and my daughter took it to the Hospital University where she works and sold it by loads. I was making about a couple of hundred extra in a week. Now this fall they want me to do it again. That is all I could make or my energy could stand lol. The hamburger recipe I am asked for as soon as it's tasted. It is quite unique as I can change it into a steak and gravy, or any kind of taste of some famous sandwiches. I can make a hundred in about 2 hours and freeze  and package them and they are just as good a year later. It tastes better then a hamburger. It is so simple but it also is how you prepare it and cook it. The texture is important too.  If I can get started somehow and established maybe I will send you the recipe cause then I will put a web site. I have been thinking the place also for this would be in the schools for lunches. Children love them even without the bread.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: mrst53 on July 29, 2010, 04:28:45 PM
You're making me hungry... A Godly SDA woman, turned me on to " peanut butter and honey" sandwiches when I was about 4, and I love them to this day. :purr:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Snoopy on July 29, 2010, 04:46:03 PM
You're making me hungry... A Godly SDA woman, turned me on to " peanut butter and honey" sandwiches when I was about 4, and I love them to this day. :purr:

Toasted peanut butter and pickle sandwich....  Yum!!
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 29, 2010, 05:24:52 PM
Snnnooooppppyy,

Peanutbutter and pickles??  :help:    :hot:   :ROFL:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Emma on July 29, 2010, 05:47:40 PM
You're making me hungry... A Godly SDA woman, turned me on to " peanut butter and honey" sandwiches when I was about 4, and I love them to this day. :purr:

Another Godly SDA woman, my mother, did the same for me  :)
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Snoopy on July 29, 2010, 06:11:48 PM

yyyyeeesssss, tinka!!!  My dear mother made them for me, may she rest in peace.  I know it sounds awful, but you really have to try it to understand.  Someday, when you need just a little snack, try it and see if you like it!!


Snnnooooppppyy,

Peanutbutter and pickles??  :help:    :hot:   :ROFL:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Sister on July 29, 2010, 06:18:22 PM
Tinka,

I, too, am interested in your burger recipe, if you decide you would like to share your expertise! Right now my favorite sandwich is avocado, tomato and onion sprouts between two pieces of whole wheat toast. On the sprouts I add a little homemade salad dressing. I used to love peanut butter sandwiches, until I developed an allergy to peanuts... I never tried it with pickles.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Fran on July 29, 2010, 07:05:37 PM
TINKA, TINKA, TINKA! 

Gotta have that recipe!  I want to taste it before the Lord comes to get me/us.  PM me.


I love recipes too, but I also like to create them myself.  Last fall after the garden I decided to do a little old time favorites like a really good Carmel corn, turtles, granola with dried fruit, and my daughter took it to the Hospital University where she works and sold it by loads. I was making about a couple of hundred extra in a week. Now this fall they want me to do it again. That is all I could make or my energy could stand lol. The hamburger recipe I am asked for as soon as it's tasted. It is quite unique as I can change it into a steak and gravy, or any kind of taste of some famous sandwiches. I can make a hundred in about 2 hours and freeze  and package them and they are just as good a year later. It tastes better then a hamburger. It is so simple but it also is how you prepare it and cook it. The texture is important too.  If I can get started somehow and established maybe I will send you the recipe cause then I will put a web site. I have been thinking the place also for this would be in the schools for lunches. Children love them even without the bread.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: GRAT on July 29, 2010, 09:01:08 PM
OK, my mom and at least one of my kids likes the PB and Pickles.  My mom used to eat orange, onion and I think PB and Mayo sandwiches.  I have tried, many years ago, it without the PB and it was good.  Sweet and Sour kind of.  I am so curious about your recipe Tinka, can't stop wondering what is in it.

Also no one has mentioned PB and Bananna and mayo sandwiches.  Used to be one of my favorites.

Edited to add last line as no one else had posted yet.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Emma on July 30, 2010, 01:05:45 AM
Peanut butter, banana and an Aussie substance called Marmite works well too :)
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Johann on July 30, 2010, 02:03:18 AM
Marmite is no longer available in Iceland
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Emma on July 30, 2010, 02:25:27 AM
You would probably have had the English version anyway, not quite the same.

I can always send you some if you like it  :rabbit:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 30, 2010, 04:44:13 AM
Christian, and others

This is my response to a personal message and I hope Cristian you don't mind me copying it to shorten my time to reply.  But I will tell you all the tricks of preparing. There is only 4 equal ingredients. It is very simple ingredients. But it took me several years to think what I could do to get all uniform and easy to fry with good taste.  Also I will tell you how I make sausage. But the ingredients I made for the hamburger.

Thank you so much for your mail. You would not believe my recipe cabinet. lol, I know my daughters of 4 and very close granddaughters are watching that cabinet closely. My hamburger recipe they all want. My children ran into my grandchildren in ages and they are more like brothers and sisters instead of aunts and uncles. Now talk about a situation as they all vie for place and that has been one hard job to keep no one more then the other priority down. So that particular recipe I keep under wraps for me only for time being. Even the granddaughter-in-laws are hoping for it. The one granddaughter-in law is sort of forcing the issue for her husband to get the stand but...I see whats coming from that.  I am not being selfish as I don't think one should go with it above the others  but if I do it they can all share it. If I can't make this go soon as my age is definitely coming up. The recipe book is a great idea but somehow I want this other to go. I have thought about just contacting the McD's or fast food places but not sure at the moment how I should plan. I would like my children to all have something since the SDA (we took on as partners in the beginning), and gov. political mess(that it led to) that downed us from our other business that our children and grandchildren would have been very secure for many many years. We are trying so hard to do something to leave them as all their work was in vain in their youth. We are just sick about it. They were such good kids and they see what we taught them did not work so yes, my husband and I are sad and brokenhearted. But I am determined to do something about it and with the Lords help maybe. But on other hand I see greater things happening that maybe we won't have to worry anymore. The Blessed coming. IF I can get it going I will let my new friends on posts look at web and see where I am at and as long as I can get it started then it makes no difference if I give it out later.  I want to get a name established and of which I have already. and vendors licence.  I hope I can do it by this fall or early spring. Thanks again for your mail.  I suppose I should go to the recipe thread and post there some info so I don't get into trouble here.

But oh my, I cannot believe how some of you make your sandwiches. I might add that I never ate a peanut butter sandwich. But I love nuts in and out of everything.  . I can only eat maybe a slice of pickle on something just once in a while. Never ate cucumbers, for some reason the taste is just horrible.  Guess I will have to go find the recipe thread on here.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: childoftheking on July 30, 2010, 05:14:48 AM
Peanut butter, dill pickle and onion. I agree with Snoopy. Delish!
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Fran on July 30, 2010, 11:24:19 AM
2 slices of good bread,
1 slice spread with Miracle Whip/Noynaise
1 slice spread with Peanut Butter (Natural)
Fill with a good helping of dark Leaf Lettuce

mum-mum-good!
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Emma on July 30, 2010, 02:02:57 PM
Looks like this thread is extolling the virtues of peanut butter  :D

Apple sauce with peanut butter on toast is good too.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 30, 2010, 02:50:35 PM
lol, here is my experience with peanut butter sandwich second handed, years ago my husband ate the sandwich and then chased me around the kitchen table to kiss me with it in his mouth. Now how is that for a second hand sandwich? We did put a huge hunk in my dogs mouth and if that wasn't silly, you should have seen that!! Dog didn't like it either. I know that it is an all American sandwich but not for me. :ROFL:  Are you ladies sure you haven't been to the dr. lately for these strange cravings?? :ROFL:  any babies coming :ROFL: Yes, I know better. Those sandwiches might make you dream your going through it again. That is possible because not long a go I dreamed that was happening to me and I woke up and yelled at my husband :ROFL: :ROFL:  The poor dear man  :hot:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: mrst53 on July 30, 2010, 05:21:33 PM
I would be suing the gyn docs at Walter Reed if I am. :ROFL:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: GRAT on July 30, 2010, 07:18:17 PM
Tinka, Cute story!!  Bet your kids and grandkids have a good laugh at that one.  If you don't like PB maybe you should try almond butter.  It is my very favorite.  Can be used for PB.  I am too old to be having babies, hoping that my kids will present me with grandchildren some day before I am too old for that.  I got started later than most.  I have friends my age who have grandchildren grad from high school and my youngest just grad from there 4 years ago.    I put PB in jars and give to my dogs to lick out.  They love it!! :puppykisses:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 30, 2010, 08:28:38 PM
We had a ole boxer dog way back then that we called BijhoYahootie. When we put a big scoop of that peanut butter in his mouth his tongue went in and out so fast and we discovered what a long tongue he had and then we thought he would swallow it and then the tongue came out again so long and it was the funniest scene I will never forget. All the years later though I've raised collie, rotts, and then Kangel, a dog from Turkey, Sadam H. had these dogs in their palaces before he was captured. They are wonderful dogs. We also raised horses. until the children left home. But I never ever gave any of them pb any more.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: GRAT on July 30, 2010, 11:00:06 PM
Wow!!  This is an education.  I had never heard of Kengel dogs.  Googled and found a picture.  Beautiful!  I have had two Mastiff mix dogs.  The one I have right now is old and I am having to help her get up as she is having hip problems.  She is the nicest, most loving dog.  Hard to see her get old.  Dogs are so much better than some humans, maybe most humans.   :dogwag:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Murcielago on July 30, 2010, 11:03:31 PM
Tinka, did you ever give a horse peanut butter? That is really funny to watch too.  :horse:
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on July 31, 2010, 04:12:55 AM
George you funny guy,  No  I never tried to give a horse PB. IF I would have probably killed it cause it wouldn't be able to swallow it. They can't open their mouth again until they swallow. Yep, I think PB would kill a horse  :ROFL:

Grat,  I now have a huge English Mastiff and he is my outdoor guard dog. I feel very comfortable with him especially in our setting. Don't even lock our doors but he has a different bark for whatever comes around to the garden. He still thinks he has to be rocked and tries to ease up when I am sitting on porch sometimes and he just does not realize he is not a baby anymore. He is such a nice dog and loving, except he takes note of strangers. I don't keep animals in the house, never did. I am too funny about dog hairs or dust from them. I could not cook if I had an animal in the house. Lived on a farm and many animals but in the house is a no no with me.  The town wild cat has now found my husband. He feeds it regular in back of the garden. It knows when to come in each day. It is now looking pretty fat and in return it stays around and keeps ground squirrils and rabbits away.

 But talk about a real dog and that is the Kengal. That is the most beautiful dog and I can't say enough about their loyality. We had to fill out a 9 page application to have one. Only two places in states that had them imported and then had litters here. Ours was born in Turkey and transported here but we bought from US residence.  They are exactely everything imaginable. They have teeth more like a bear and not a dog. They will attact a mountain lion or bear. We had one about 220 plus pounds. She finally died and we were so sad and our grandson brought us this fawn English Mastiff I call Big Jonah that they had to take away from the litter and the mother sort of didn't take care of it. It turned out to be the biggest and best out of the litter and it was given for free. We could never afford a Kangel again or be able to have one with the farm gone. I will never forget her loyality and she saved me and my mother twice from no gooders that came on the farm when everyone was gone.  Her name....was Tinka (smile).
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Murcielago on July 31, 2010, 08:36:03 PM
I fed PB to a horse one time. I gues it must have swallowed it because it lived. It threw its head up and down, opening and closing its mouth for a few minutes. That happened with popcorm balls too.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on August 01, 2010, 04:24:26 AM
It was throwing its head up and down cause it was struggling to swallow. then opening it's mouth as it wasn't going down well. a vet in order to worm a horse with large pills has a long skinny tube instrument that fits way back where there is no teeth and inserts it through the back part of lips while horse's mouth is closed and then shoots it like a gun effect back beyond the swallowing.

I did feed Grandma tiny pony pancakes and syrup at breakfast table led in through back door to eat with my tiny little granddaughter that would not eat. We got her to eat with Grandma pony. The pony ate it quite well on her own....without PB . After that she would always come put her nose up to the door glass and look in waiting to come in to eat. We just let her run loose like a dog around the house and the children played and played with her. I think PB  must have a sticking effect inside the mouth if it is a lot.
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: Emma on August 01, 2010, 12:34:58 PM
I heard once that Mr Ed the talking horse made those motions because he had been fed peanut butter....
Title: Re: No money for Danny's ex-wife Tammy?????
Post by: tinka on August 01, 2010, 02:03:05 PM
Oh my, so thats how they did that!! I believe that must be exactly what they did. So


George, was you trying to talk to the horse. Now those are tricks I did not know about on how to make the horse talk.  :ROFL: