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Issues & Concerns Category => 3ABN => Topic started by: Johann on June 05, 2009, 02:37:33 AM

Title: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Johann on June 05, 2009, 02:37:33 AM
I have received the following from

Lorraine Day, M.D.
P.O. Box 8
Thousand Palms, CA  92276

An Open Letter to the Chairman, Walter Thompson,
and the other Members of the Board of
Three Angels Broadcasting Network

June 2, 2009
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You have committed an egregious and horrible mistake in firing Linda Shelton from her position as Vice President of 3ABN.  She did nothing to deserve being fired, in fact, for almost twenty years she gave everything she had to build that network.  And she certainly is not an adulteress.
 
What did she get for her 11-12 hour work-days for almost 20 years, her donations of her CD royalties to 3ABN, Linda’s repeated giving of her weekends for years and years to travel for 3ABN after working long hours all week, and her allegiance and total dedication to the network for almost twenty years?   What was her reward?  All of you Board Members threw her out like a piece of trash – and allowed every memory of her to be erased as though she never even existed.
 
The truth is that Danny Shelton – NOT Linda - is the adulterer!  He falsely accused Linda of the sin of which he is guilty.  In psychiatric terms, that is called projection.
 
The fact that Danny – NOT Linda – is the adulterer has been the “Gorilla in the room” that everyone knows is there, but everyone is pretending is not there.
 
Danny had no biblical grounds to divorce Linda and no biblical grounds to get remarried.  By definition, according to the Bible and the Seventh-day Adventist church, that makes Danny Shelton the adulterer.   The only way any Board member could have endorsed Danny’s re-marriage was to have proof of Linda’s adultery – which none of you have – nor does Danny Shelton!  And innuendo and false accusations are not adequate to classify as “proof.”

Danny had to accuse Linda of adultery – viciously, loudly (and falsely), in order to pretend to have “grounds” to marry the woman he had “waiting in the wings” – yet still hold on to his reputation and prestige, maintain his private access to the “money tree” of 3ABN, and keep his job with all its perks, including his private jet.
 
In the spring of 2004, I received a phone call from Danny Shelton.  He said he wanted to discuss a certain situation regarding a couple he said he was “counseling about a marriage problem.”  He said the wife of the couple had committed “spiritual adultery.”  Because I had never heard of such a term, I asked him to define it.  He said it was when a wife had given her heart to another man.  I asked him how “this woman” had demonstrated that she had “given her heart to another man.”  Danny was quite vague with his answer.  I then asked if the woman had committed physical adultery with another man, and he answered, “No.”  I asked, “Does the wife still want to be married to her husband?”  Danny Shelton’s answer was, “No.”  But I later found out that last answer by Danny was not true!
 
It was several months later, in June of the same year (2004), when the fact that Danny was divorcing Linda became public knowledge that I again heard the term “spiritual adultery” bantered around, and I realized in retrospect that Danny had not been talking with me about “a couple he was counseling” but he had actually been referring to Linda.  And his answer that the “wife” (meaning Linda) “did not want to remain married to her husband” was blatantly false.  Linda wanted very much to remain married to Danny at that time and couldn’t figure out why he was behaving so strangely.  It was only after Danny told Linda, “I want you out of my house” that Linda realized Danny was actually planning to divorce her.
 
I challenge any Board Member to show me any evidence that Linda committed adultery.  Send it to me at the address on this letterhead.  And if you cannot show me that evidence, you will have to admit that you, indeed, have made an conspicuously horrible error in firing Linda Shelton.
 
And the kind of “evidence” of which I’m speaking does not include the false accusations and outright lies by Brenda Walsh, accusations that crumble with the slightest investigation - investigation that all of you should have done – but obviously did not.  I have a copy of a tape of Brenda telling lies, why don’t you? 
 
All of you, including Board Chairman Walter Thompson, have been sycophants for Danny Shelton.  He has “conned” you completely.  You all have believed Danny Shelton’s version of events without having any evidence.  In fact, Walter Thompson has admitted that he has never had any evidence of adultery against Linda Shelton.

As in any organization, everyone wants to keep the organization going, secure their own jobs, keep the donations rolling in, and save face for the network and the “church.”   And the first casualty is always - - - the truth!  So Linda Shelton was thrown to the wolves.  You obviously considered her expendable!  She was the scapegoat who was thrown overboard to “save” the sinking ship.  Danny deliberately – and falsely - made Linda the object of contempt to point the finger away from him – and towards Linda - in order to cover up his own despicable behavior!
 
One board member who has been repeatedly touted by Danny Shelton as having “counseled” Linda about her marriage problems actually gave her NO counsel at all.  She said to Linda, “We really don’t care about the marriage problems between you and Danny, all we know is that the President of 3ABN (Danny Shelton) doesn’t want his Vice President (Linda Shelton) anymore!”  What kind of “counsel” is that!  How “Christian” is that?
 
So, Walter Thompson and all you other Board members, tell me – and tell the world – WHY did you fire Linda Shelton from her position as Vice President of 3ABN?   If it wasn’t for the false charge of adultery – for which you have NO evidence – then tell all of us out here your specific reason.  You know in your heart - and in your gut - that it was only because Danny Shelton told you to do it.
 
Danny Shelton keeps repeating that, “No reason is needed in the State of Illinois for an employer to fire an employee.”  (How “convenient” for him – and all of you.)  I guess the State of Illinois is Danny Shelton’s “god” – and yours.  But Christians should have a much higher standard for their actions than the unfair “laws” of a corrupt State bureaucracy.  We are all accountable to the Lord for our actions.  The 3ABN Board is not exempt - even though you have behaved as though you are.  Firing Linda for no reason, humiliating her publicly, falsely accusing her of adultery, destroying her reputation, and throwing her out of her home, job and marriage on false charges - is NOT “Okay” with God, irrespective of the unjust “laws” of the State of Illinois.
 
And your endorsement of such a travesty is shameful.
 
Your complicity in this mess makes you just as guilty as Danny Shelton.
 
Are you aware that in 2002, after 18 years of marriage to Linda – and at a time when Linda was virtually finished with her childbearing years - Danny Shelton “suddenly” decided to have a vasectomy?  A few months later, he moved his toiletries and other things out of the bathroom that he had shared with Linda for years, into a separate bathroom in their home, and simultaneously began regularly working out at home, something he had never done before, subsequently purchasing a Bowflex gym set to begin vigorous bodybuilding.
 

Ladies, I ask you, if after being married to your husband for 18 years - when you are now approaching the age when you will no longer be able to become pregnant - your husband, 1) gets a vasectomy, 2) buys a body-building gym and begins working out regularly trying to become “buff”, and, 3) moves his toiletries out of the bathroom he has shared with you for years, into another bathroom, with no explanation – what would YOU think was going on?  And this began a full two years before Danny suddenly started accusing Linda.
 
It doesn’t take an “Einstein” to figure it out.  Circumstantial evidence it is, but a lot stronger circumstantial evidence than anything you have against Linda Shelton.  And this circumstantial evidence is only the proverbial “tip of the iceberg.”  Why do you think that Danny’s goal has been to force a “Silence Agreement” on everyone who has information about this sordid episode!  The “dirty laundry” is waiting to be exposed.  It’s your job to expose it – not to cover it up!
 
Where is your intestinal fortitude to tackle a difficult problem?  Where are the questions that you should be asking Danny Shelton?  Where is your obligation to pursue truth?
 
So again, my challenge to you, Chairman Walter Thompson, and all of you other Board Members who have clearly not done your duty, is to show me and everyone else who has donated their hard-earned money to 3ABN, the evidence that Linda committed adultery with anyone while she was married to Danny Shelton.  And tell us WHY you fired her!   In case you’ve forgotten, without donors - - you don’t have a network.  Stop ignoring the “Gorilla in the room.”
 
We donors have a right to know the truth.

Yours truly,
 
 
Lorraine Day, M.D.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Wendall on June 05, 2009, 11:37:29 AM
I find the statements offensive, stereotyping and sexist against men. The writer of the letter discredits herself by her evidence she states.

So when does a married man get a vasectomy? Usually when He and his Wife decide they should not have any anymore children for various reasons. I just wonder if that conversation ever occurred?  So writer's conclusion appears to be if a middle age man gets a vasectomy he is intending to cheat on his wife.  :ROFL: :scratch:. Maybe man doesn't want wife at a late age of life to harm herself by becoming pregnant.  ;D :wave:Or...other good reasons

If a middle age man decides to get buffed then that means he is or wants to cheat on the wife of 18 years.  :ROFL: :ROFL: Okay so condemn a man for wanting to become healthy. I think the writer is a doctor, yes. That certainly is problematic. I thought doctors are supposed to motivate us to live healthier lives. Well, if a man wants to become healthier it also might mean that the man is trying to keep healthy to prolong his life so he can support his sweetheart=wife. Or...other good reasons  ;D

Moving his toiletries out of the bathroom into another bathroom. Maybe another party had been living in the house and they left. Or maybe man felt a love for wife to let her have a whole bathroom to herself. By the way most men have a toothbrush, one bottle of aftershave etc., and one container of deodorant.

I am sure glad that the writer isn't my doctor.  :wave: These types of writtings tend to fuel the fire instead of resolve issues. The letter would be more credible without  the above references


Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Gailon Arthur Joy on June 06, 2009, 04:33:52 AM
I have received the following from

Lorraine Day, M.D.
P.O. Box 8
Thousand Palms, CA  92276

An Open Letter to the Chairman, Walter Thompson,
and the other Members of the Board of
Three Angels Broadcasting Network

June 2, 2009
[/b]

You have committed an egregious and horrible mistake in firing Linda Shelton from her position as Vice President of 3ABN.  She did nothing to deserve being fired, in fact, for almost twenty years she gave everything she had to build that network.  And she certainly is not an adulteress.
 
What did she get for her 11-12 hour work-days for almost 20 years, her donations of her CD royalties to 3ABN, Linda’s repeated giving of her weekends for years and years to travel for 3ABN after working long hours all week, and her allegiance and total dedication to the network for almost twenty years?   What was her reward?  All of you Board Members threw her out like a piece of trash – and allowed every memory of her to be erased as though she never even existed.
 
The truth is that Danny Shelton – NOT Linda - is the adulterer!  He falsely accused Linda of the sin of which he is guilty.  In psychiatric terms, that is called projection.
 
The fact that Danny – NOT Linda – is the adulterer has been the “Gorilla in the room” that everyone knows is there, but everyone is pretending is not there.
 
Danny had no biblical grounds to divorce Linda and no biblical grounds to get remarried.  By definition, according to the Bible and the Seventh-day Adventist church, that makes Danny Shelton the adulterer.   The only way any Board member could have endorsed Danny’s re-marriage was to have proof of Linda’s adultery – which none of you have – nor does Danny Shelton!  And innuendo and false accusations are not adequate to classify as “proof.”

Danny had to accuse Linda of adultery – viciously, loudly (and falsely), in order to pretend to have “grounds” to marry the woman he had “waiting in the wings” – yet still hold on to his reputation and prestige, maintain his private access to the “money tree” of 3ABN, and keep his job with all its perks, including his private jet.
 
In the spring of 2004, I received a phone call from Danny Shelton.  He said he wanted to discuss a certain situation regarding a couple he said he was “counseling about a marriage problem.”  He said the wife of the couple had committed “spiritual adultery.”  Because I had never heard of such a term, I asked him to define it.  He said it was when a wife had given her heart to another man.  I asked him how “this woman” had demonstrated that she had “given her heart to another man.”  Danny was quite vague with his answer.  I then asked if the woman had committed physical adultery with another man, and he answered, “No.”  I asked, “Does the wife still want to be married to her husband?”  Danny Shelton’s answer was, “No.”  But I later found out that last answer by Danny was not true!
 
It was several months later, in June of the same year (2004), when the fact that Danny was divorcing Linda became public knowledge that I again heard the term “spiritual adultery” bantered around, and I realized in retrospect that Danny had not been talking with me about “a couple he was counseling” but he had actually been referring to Linda.  And his answer that the “wife” (meaning Linda) “did not want to remain married to her husband” was blatantly false.  Linda wanted very much to remain married to Danny at that time and couldn’t figure out why he was behaving so strangely.  It was only after Danny told Linda, “I want you out of my house” that Linda realized Danny was actually planning to divorce her.
 
I challenge any Board Member to show me any evidence that Linda committed adultery.  Send it to me at the address on this letterhead.  And if you cannot show me that evidence, you will have to admit that you, indeed, have made an conspicuously horrible error in firing Linda Shelton.
 
And the kind of “evidence” of which I’m speaking does not include the false accusations and outright lies by Brenda Walsh, accusations that crumble with the slightest investigation - investigation that all of you should have done – but obviously did not.  I have a copy of a tape of Brenda telling lies, why don’t you? 
 
All of you, including Board Chairman Walter Thompson, have been sycophants for Danny Shelton.  He has “conned” you completely.  You all have believed Danny Shelton’s version of events without having any evidence.  In fact, Walter Thompson has admitted that he has never had any evidence of adultery against Linda Shelton.

As in any organization, everyone wants to keep the organization going, secure their own jobs, keep the donations rolling in, and save face for the network and the “church.”   And the first casualty is always - - - the truth!  So Linda Shelton was thrown to the wolves.  You obviously considered her expendable!  She was the scapegoat who was thrown overboard to “save” the sinking ship.  Danny deliberately – and falsely - made Linda the object of contempt to point the finger away from him – and towards Linda - in order to cover up his own despicable behavior!
 
One board member who has been repeatedly touted by Danny Shelton as having “counseled” Linda about her marriage problems actually gave her NO counsel at all.  She said to Linda, “We really don’t care about the marriage problems between you and Danny, all we know is that the President of 3ABN (Danny Shelton) doesn’t want his Vice President (Linda Shelton) anymore!”  What kind of “counsel” is that!  How “Christian” is that?
 
So, Walter Thompson and all you other Board members, tell me – and tell the world – WHY did you fire Linda Shelton from her position as Vice President of 3ABN?   If it wasn’t for the false charge of adultery – for which you have NO evidence – then tell all of us out here your specific reason.  You know in your heart - and in your gut - that it was only because Danny Shelton told you to do it.
 
Danny Shelton keeps repeating that, “No reason is needed in the State of Illinois for an employer to fire an employee.”  (How “convenient” for him – and all of you.)  I guess the State of Illinois is Danny Shelton’s “god” – and yours.  But Christians should have a much higher standard for their actions than the unfair “laws” of a corrupt State bureaucracy.  We are all accountable to the Lord for our actions.  The 3ABN Board is not exempt - even though you have behaved as though you are.  Firing Linda for no reason, humiliating her publicly, falsely accusing her of adultery, destroying her reputation, and throwing her out of her home, job and marriage on false charges - is NOT “Okay” with God, irrespective of the unjust “laws” of the State of Illinois.
 
And your endorsement of such a travesty is shameful.
 
Your complicity in this mess makes you just as guilty as Danny Shelton.
 
Are you aware that in 2002, after 18 years of marriage to Linda – and at a time when Linda was virtually finished with her childbearing years - Danny Shelton “suddenly” decided to have a vasectomy?  A few months later, he moved his toiletries and other things out of the bathroom that he had shared with Linda for years, into a separate bathroom in their home, and simultaneously began regularly working out at home, something he had never done before, subsequently purchasing a Bowflex gym set to begin vigorous bodybuilding.
 

Ladies, I ask you, if after being married to your husband for 18 years - when you are now approaching the age when you will no longer be able to become pregnant - your husband, 1) gets a vasectomy, 2) buys a body-building gym and begins working out regularly trying to become “buff”, and, 3) moves his toiletries out of the bathroom he has shared with you for years, into another bathroom, with no explanation – what would YOU think was going on?  And this began a full two years before Danny suddenly started accusing Linda.
 
It doesn’t take an “Einstein” to figure it out.  Circumstantial evidence it is, but a lot stronger circumstantial evidence than anything you have against Linda Shelton.  And this circumstantial evidence is only the proverbial “tip of the iceberg.”  Why do you think that Danny’s goal has been to force a “Silence Agreement” on everyone who has information about this sordid episode!  The “dirty laundry” is waiting to be exposed.  It’s your job to expose it – not to cover it up!
 
Where is your intestinal fortitude to tackle a difficult problem?  Where are the questions that you should be asking Danny Shelton?  Where is your obligation to pursue truth?
 
So again, my challenge to you, Chairman Walter Thompson, and all of you other Board Members who have clearly not done your duty, is to show me and everyone else who has donated their hard-earned money to 3ABN, the evidence that Linda committed adultery with anyone while she was married to Danny Shelton.  And tell us WHY you fired her!   In case you’ve forgotten, without donors - - you don’t have a network.  Stop ignoring the “Gorilla in the room.”
 
We donors have a right to know the truth.

Yours truly,
 
 
Lorraine Day, M.D.



HERE, HERE !!! I second the motion and would declare that Dr. Day has not stated the tenth of the evidence to support her summation...but, I AM READY, WILIING AND ABLE TO TELL THE THAT STORY, THE WHOLE STORY AND NOTHING BUT THE STORY, SO HELP ME GOD!!!

As more and more people see the evidence they are NAUSEATED by the HYPOCRISY and the OPEN CORRUPTION endorsed by these former christians purporting to promote a THREE ANGELS MESSAGE...."behold, I stand at the door and knock...."but NO-ONE CAME!!!!!

THE LORD'S CURSE IS MOST ASSUREDLY UPON THEM!!!!!

Gailpn Arthur Joy
AUREORTER
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Gailon Arthur Joy on June 06, 2009, 04:38:03 AM
I find the statements offensive, stereotyping and sexist against men. The writer of the letter discredits herself by her evidence she states.

So when does a married man get a vasectomy? Usually when He and his Wife decide they should not have any anymore children for various reasons. I just wonder if that conversation ever occurred?  So writer's conclusion appears to be if a middle age man gets a vasectomy he is intending to cheat on his wife.  :ROFL: :scratch:. Maybe man doesn't want wife at a late age of life to harm herself by becoming pregnant.  ;D :wave:Or...other good reasons

If a middle age man decides to get buffed then that means he is or wants to cheat on the wife of 18 years.  :ROFL: :ROFL: Okay so condemn a man for wanting to become healthy. I think the writer is a doctor, yes. That certainly is problematic. I thought doctors are supposed to motivate us to live healthier lives. Well, if a man wants to become healthier it also might mean that the man is trying to keep healthy to prolong his life so he can support his sweetheart=wife. Or...other good reasons  ;D

Moving his toiletries out of the bathroom into another bathroom. Maybe another party had been living in the house and they left. Or maybe man felt a love for wife to let her have a whole bathroom to herself. By the way most men have a toothbrush, one bottle of aftershave etc., and one container of deodorant.

I am sure glad that the writer isn't my doctor.  :wave: These types of writtings tend to fuel the fire instead of resolve issues. The letter would be more credible without  the above references




WENDALL, My Dear,

You clearly are in need of the ...EYESALVE... of TRUTH. The knocking at the door clearly continues for you!!! Be careful that you not foresake it as it is the "UNFOREGIVABLE SIN". You most assuredly are close!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUREPORTER



Gailon Arthur
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: tinka on June 06, 2009, 01:25:08 PM
Wendall,
Your theories of finding justification in DS actions are not reality.You forgot the ego on hair transplants. After 18 years of marriage and then vascetomy?? Who are you kidding? What did he do in the mean time all the years? What made the change now? Getting body in shape is typical for a man on the  :rabbit: (bunny) trail. Linda recognoized the unusual signs but most honest women don't move on it till too late. As woman don't want to believe it at first. It takes them time to think if it is really true or decide what might be going wrong.  In fact are the last to realize the reality of what was going on.  All the signs you mention are quite typical of a man compensating for his lost age and other interests. Otherwise you could not have drawn DS away from LInda. Its all about DS.  Afterall LS is much more attractive then what he chased. A man that does that has severe ego problems and even more problems about losing and looking his age. Yeah, age is against DS. Sooner or later, she will leave, he will leave or they will leave. Remember the Tammy Fay Baker. She died with the eyelashes and makeup till her last breath in skin and bones. What a problem that must be if your in that state. Do you now get the message of what can be viewed in a person's character. Totally in denial to make one self look imortal!! That really presents something being hidden internal by external.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Johann on June 12, 2009, 03:42:42 AM
This open letter is still there. Where is the "Gorilla"?


Lorraine Day, M.D.
P.O. Box 8
Thousand Palms, CA  92276

An Open Letter to the Chairman, Walter Thompson,
and the other Members of the Board of
Three Angels Broadcasting Network

June 2, 2009
[/b]

You have committed an egregious and horrible mistake in firing Linda Shelton from her position as Vice President of 3ABN.  She did nothing to deserve being fired, in fact, for almost twenty years she gave everything she had to build that network.  And she certainly is not an adulteress.
 
What did she get for her 11-12 hour work-days for almost 20 years, her donations of her CD royalties to 3ABN, Linda’s repeated giving of her weekends for years and years to travel for 3ABN after working long hours all week, and her allegiance and total dedication to the network for almost twenty years?   What was her reward?  All of you Board Members threw her out like a piece of trash – and allowed every memory of her to be erased as though she never even existed.
 
The truth is that Danny Shelton – NOT Linda - is the adulterer!  He falsely accused Linda of the sin of which he is guilty.  In psychiatric terms, that is called projection.
 
The fact that Danny – NOT Linda – is the adulterer has been the “Gorilla in the room” that everyone knows is there, but everyone is pretending is not there.
 
Danny had no biblical grounds to divorce Linda and no biblical grounds to get remarried.  By definition, according to the Bible and the Seventh-day Adventist church, that makes Danny Shelton the adulterer.   The only way any Board member could have endorsed Danny’s re-marriage was to have proof of Linda’s adultery – which none of you have – nor does Danny Shelton!  And innuendo and false accusations are not adequate to classify as “proof.”

Danny had to accuse Linda of adultery – viciously, loudly (and falsely), in order to pretend to have “grounds” to marry the woman he had “waiting in the wings” – yet still hold on to his reputation and prestige, maintain his private access to the “money tree” of 3ABN, and keep his job with all its perks, including his private jet.
 
In the spring of 2004, I received a phone call from Danny Shelton.  He said he wanted to discuss a certain situation regarding a couple he said he was “counseling about a marriage problem.”  He said the wife of the couple had committed “spiritual adultery.”  Because I had never heard of such a term, I asked him to define it.  He said it was when a wife had given her heart to another man.  I asked him how “this woman” had demonstrated that she had “given her heart to another man.”  Danny was quite vague with his answer.  I then asked if the woman had committed physical adultery with another man, and he answered, “No.”  I asked, “Does the wife still want to be married to her husband?”  Danny Shelton’s answer was, “No.”  But I later found out that last answer by Danny was not true!
 
It was several months later, in June of the same year (2004), when the fact that Danny was divorcing Linda became public knowledge that I again heard the term “spiritual adultery” bantered around, and I realized in retrospect that Danny had not been talking with me about “a couple he was counseling” but he had actually been referring to Linda.  And his answer that the “wife” (meaning Linda) “did not want to remain married to her husband” was blatantly false.  Linda wanted very much to remain married to Danny at that time and couldn’t figure out why he was behaving so strangely.  It was only after Danny told Linda, “I want you out of my house” that Linda realized Danny was actually planning to divorce her.
 
I challenge any Board Member to show me any evidence that Linda committed adultery.  Send it to me at the address on this letterhead.  And if you cannot show me that evidence, you will have to admit that you, indeed, have made an conspicuously horrible error in firing Linda Shelton.
 
And the kind of “evidence” of which I’m speaking does not include the false accusations and outright lies by Brenda Walsh, accusations that crumble with the slightest investigation - investigation that all of you should have done – but obviously did not.  I have a copy of a tape of Brenda telling lies, why don’t you? 
 
All of you, including Board Chairman Walter Thompson, have been sycophants for Danny Shelton.  He has “conned” you completely.  You all have believed Danny Shelton’s version of events without having any evidence.  In fact, Walter Thompson has admitted that he has never had any evidence of adultery against Linda Shelton.

As in any organization, everyone wants to keep the organization going, secure their own jobs, keep the donations rolling in, and save face for the network and the “church.”   And the first casualty is always - - - the truth!  So Linda Shelton was thrown to the wolves.  You obviously considered her expendable!  She was the scapegoat who was thrown overboard to “save” the sinking ship.  Danny deliberately – and falsely - made Linda the object of contempt to point the finger away from him – and towards Linda - in order to cover up his own despicable behavior!
 
One board member who has been repeatedly touted by Danny Shelton as having “counseled” Linda about her marriage problems actually gave her NO counsel at all.  She said to Linda, “We really don’t care about the marriage problems between you and Danny, all we know is that the President of 3ABN (Danny Shelton) doesn’t want his Vice President (Linda Shelton) anymore!”  What kind of “counsel” is that!  How “Christian” is that?
 
So, Walter Thompson and all you other Board members, tell me – and tell the world – WHY did you fire Linda Shelton from her position as Vice President of 3ABN?   If it wasn’t for the false charge of adultery – for which you have NO evidence – then tell all of us out here your specific reason.  You know in your heart - and in your gut - that it was only because Danny Shelton told you to do it.
 
Danny Shelton keeps repeating that, “No reason is needed in the State of Illinois for an employer to fire an employee.”  (How “convenient” for him – and all of you.)  I guess the State of Illinois is Danny Shelton’s “god” – and yours.  But Christians should have a much higher standard for their actions than the unfair “laws” of a corrupt State bureaucracy.  We are all accountable to the Lord for our actions.  The 3ABN Board is not exempt - even though you have behaved as though you are.  Firing Linda for no reason, humiliating her publicly, falsely accusing her of adultery, destroying her reputation, and throwing her out of her home, job and marriage on false charges - is NOT “Okay” with God, irrespective of the unjust “laws” of the State of Illinois.
 
And your endorsement of such a travesty is shameful.
 
Your complicity in this mess makes you just as guilty as Danny Shelton.
 
Are you aware that in 2002, after 18 years of marriage to Linda – and at a time when Linda was virtually finished with her childbearing years - Danny Shelton “suddenly” decided to have a vasectomy?  A few months later, he moved his toiletries and other things out of the bathroom that he had shared with Linda for years, into a separate bathroom in their home, and simultaneously began regularly working out at home, something he had never done before, subsequently purchasing a Bowflex gym set to begin vigorous bodybuilding.
 

Ladies, I ask you, if after being married to your husband for 18 years - when you are now approaching the age when you will no longer be able to become pregnant - your husband, 1) gets a vasectomy, 2) buys a body-building gym and begins working out regularly trying to become “buff”, and, 3) moves his toiletries out of the bathroom he has shared with you for years, into another bathroom, with no explanation – what would YOU think was going on?  And this began a full two years before Danny suddenly started accusing Linda.
 
It doesn’t take an “Einstein” to figure it out.  Circumstantial evidence it is, but a lot stronger circumstantial evidence than anything you have against Linda Shelton.  And this circumstantial evidence is only the proverbial “tip of the iceberg.”  Why do you think that Danny’s goal has been to force a “Silence Agreement” on everyone who has information about this sordid episode!  The “dirty laundry” is waiting to be exposed.  It’s your job to expose it – not to cover it up!
 
Where is your intestinal fortitude to tackle a difficult problem?  Where are the questions that you should be asking Danny Shelton?  Where is your obligation to pursue truth?
 
So again, my challenge to you, Chairman Walter Thompson, and all of you other Board Members who have clearly not done your duty, is to show me and everyone else who has donated their hard-earned money to 3ABN, the evidence that Linda committed adultery with anyone while she was married to Danny Shelton.  And tell us WHY you fired her!   In case you’ve forgotten, without donors - - you don’t have a network.  Stop ignoring the “Gorilla in the room.”
 
We donors have a right to know the truth.

Yours truly,
 
 
Lorraine Day, M.D.
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Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Johann on June 13, 2009, 05:22:17 AM
In fhe beginning Danny Shelton asked me why I supported Linda and not him. My reswponse might be a suprise to some. I told Danny I supported Linda because those who supported her at 3ABN were in a minority, so she needed my support. I further told Danny that if only a minority supported him there I'd probably support him.

Why?

The true followers of Jesus Christ are usually a minority. Besides that I found Danny's methods of gaining support suspicious.

What could be Lorraine Day's reason for supporting Linda with this open letter?
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: dburt on June 13, 2009, 06:26:47 PM
At the elevated risk of raining on the 3ABN discussion parade and incurring the wrath of some on this site, it seems it must be said that perhaps too many folks are involved in flogging dead horses when there is a gospel that needs to be taken to those who are spiritually dead and physically dying every day for lack of the good news! If there were as much interest and energy invested in doing something personal every day for the sake of those who need the gospel as there is by some in endlessy debating this and that aspect of the lives and of the two principle Sheltons, then the gospel would be taken that much sooner to the world, and Jesus could come and take us home. In fact, the case could be made that many who are investing so much precious time and energy turning the problems of 3ABN in SDA's version of a juicy soap opera could better spend thier time and resources into helping to hasten the Lord's coming. So I throw out a challenge, invest your time, resources, energy and yourself fully into doing something real and concrete every day for the spread of the gospel, NOT the gossip! Remember, Satan is the accuser of the brothern. What ever has happened has happened, only God knows the details and can sort it out. That is His business, He is still in control, and has given us our marching orders. So, we really need to stick to the marching orders, and not try to sort out other people's problems!
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Johann on June 13, 2009, 06:49:33 PM
Some may not be aware of the fact that 3ABN has in recent months closed down their transmission of the Gospel Outreach programs. Gospel Outreach of Walla Walla, WA, is a tremendous program led by laymen which wins many souls for Christ. Linda Shelton helped GO collect the funds they needed to continue their work, and it seems that as a "punishment" 3ABN did their part in trying to close down this soul-winning agency.

That dead horse seems still alive!!!
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on June 13, 2009, 07:28:15 PM
If their reason for doing that was solely on account of what Linda Shelton did there, then that is definitely a wrong reason for doing that.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Mary Sue Smith on June 13, 2009, 07:58:28 PM
I have spoken with a Gospel Outreach Board member and what Johann said is not correct information. 

1) Linda Shelton did NOT help collect any funds for Gospel Outreach. You are mixed up. She helped with Blue Mountain TV (Hope) to collect funds for them at a later date. She did not collect any funds for Gospel Outreach.  These are two different entities.

2) 3ABN did not "close down" the work of Gospel Outreach. The GO Board member spoke with Jim Gilley who told them they had "poor quality programming" and that they needed to upgrade. Gospel Outreach is in the process of meeting these standards set by 3ABN.  This was between Jim Gilley and GO Board, Danny didn't even know about it.  The GO Board member who spoke to me said their programming did need to improve and that this was a goal of theirs so they could be back on 3ABN soon.



Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: ex3abnemployee on June 13, 2009, 10:07:07 PM
Danny didn't even know about it. 
  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: GRAT on June 13, 2009, 10:17:48 PM
Junebug  - If 3 ABN is so concerned about quality programming why do the let "mr. i'm so uneducated" get on there and interview people and talk and talk about himself.   And if you will read Johann post he does not say 3abm closed down the work of GO he says they closed down their transmission of the Gospel Outreach Programs, which means that they quit showing their programs on air.  By the way, which board member did you talk with?   

And I am with X  :ROFL: :ROFL:
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Mary Sue Smith on June 14, 2009, 08:53:27 AM
For pity sakes, "quality programming" as IN THE FILMING PROCESS.   The FILMS were of POOR quality.   ...um, do any of you know anything about filming? --we are in the digital age now you know.   

I spoke to the President of GO.  He seemed just fine about it all, with talking with Jim Gilley at 3ABN and knew they needed to upgrade their equipment. 

And NO, Danny didn't know about it until later.  Jim Gilley is the one who was involved.  It is possible to verify this information if you care to know the truth.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: GRAT on June 14, 2009, 09:42:47 AM
"quality programming" would include filming AND content. 
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Cindy on June 14, 2009, 11:02:24 AM
"quality programming" would include filming AND content. 


IMO GRAT you need to stop. To be blunt, You obviously know less than Johann about this.

That was spoken just like so many here who claim to know what's what, and argue without a leg to stand on.

You don't know the people involved, haven't talked to them, don't know what the conversation was or what they meant, and NEVER bothered to investigate as you were just told you could easily do,( no one told you to go ask 3abn who you'd never believe anyway, go ask Gospel outreach..) but still you arrogantly correct others, and claim to know what was meant. NOT.

You all truly live in your own little world and your own little reality here.

 
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on June 14, 2009, 02:29:54 PM
Unless somebody has facts to the contrary, based on what Junebug posted I don't see any reason not to accept what she posted here about this.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Bob Pickle on June 14, 2009, 02:50:16 PM
Unless somebody has facts to the contrary, based on what Junebug posted I don't see any reason not to accept what she posted here about this.

I seem to recall Junebug more than once clearly making statements that weren't so. And then there is her great hesitancy to say that even if the minor was consenting, child molestation is still wrong.

So I wouldn't want to accept anything Junebug says unless she can provide some sort of solid, convincing, documentary support.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on June 14, 2009, 03:03:56 PM
Asking Junebug for some sort of solid, convincing documentary support is fair, provided that when Junebug requests the same, it will be given.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Johann on June 14, 2009, 03:38:21 PM
???


I have spoken with a Gospel Outreach Board member and what Johann said is not correct information. 

1) Linda Shelton did NOT help collect any funds for Gospel Outreach. You are mixed up. She helped with Blue Mountain TV (Hope) to collect funds for them at a later date. She did not collect any funds for Gospel Outreach.  These are two different entities.

2) 3ABN did not "close down" the work of Gospel Outreach. The GO Board member spoke with Jim Gilley who told them they had "poor quality programming" and that they needed to upgrade. Gospel Outreach is in the process of meeting these standards set by 3ABN.  This was between Jim Gilley and GO Board, Danny didn't even know about it.  The GO Board member who spoke to me said their programming did need to improve and that this was a goal of theirs so they could be back on 3ABN soon.

Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Nosir Myzing on June 14, 2009, 03:59:02 PM
Junebug  - If 3 ABN is so concerned about quality programming why do the let "mr. i'm so uneducated" get on there and interview people and talk and talk about himself.   


Because they believe differently then you, and unlike you actually know the person they have formed their opinions of, and that their viewers and supporters like him?

Quote from: GRAT
And if you will read Johann post he does not say 3abm closed down the work of GO he says they closed down their transmission of the Gospel Outreach Programs, which means that they quit showing their programs on air... 

You are wrong and need to read it again yourself. The quote is below and bold text and underlining added for your convenience.  Please also notice your double standards, as I did. While you demand proof and answers of Junebug, you neglected to first ask Johann who started this for any proof of his so called "facts", or where he got his story from.

Quote from: Johann
Some may not be aware of the fact that 3ABN has in recent months closed down their transmission of the Gospel Outreach programs. Gospel Outreach of Walla Walla, WA, is a tremendous program led by laymen which wins many souls for Christ. Linda Shelton helped GO collect the funds they needed to continue their work, and it seems that as a "punishment" 3ABN did their part in trying to close down this soul-winning agency.[/u]


Quote from: GRAT
By the way, which board member did you talk with?   

And I am with X  :ROFL: :ROFL:

And by the way, which board member of either 3ABN or gospel outreach did you talk with, GRAT?

And you are with who?

ROFL? ROFL?
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Nosir Myzing on June 14, 2009, 04:07:15 PM
Unless somebody has facts to the contrary, based on what Junebug posted I don't see any reason not to accept what she posted here about this.

I seem to recall Junebug more than once clearly making statements that weren't so. And then there is her great hesitancy to say that even if the minor was consenting, child molestation is still wrong.

Said the clanging cymbal, as he continued to beat the dead horse into the ground...

So I wouldn't want to accept anything Junebug says unless she can provide some sort of solid, convincing, documentary support.

And? You believe and accept nothing which comes from anyone who you disagree with Mr " I heard" Pickle, but so many watch you jump right on any juicy and negative gossip or other hearsay which you agree with.

Yawn...
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: GRAT on June 14, 2009, 05:03:05 PM

Ian, Nosir Myzing, Junebug

It is so interesting to see you all get so riled up and so puffed up proud of who you know and what you know.  Wow, I am so impressed!  The fact is you don't know who I know or what I know.  And yes, I did make a mistake and am so thankful for the "loving, Christian way"  that you pointed out that fact to me, Nosir Myzing.  Just makes me want to support 3ABM.  And don't bother with the "you are just as bad".  Save your breath for someone who cares what you think.



Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Fran on June 14, 2009, 05:48:06 PM
And to think, this thread is about an open letter to Walt Thompson.  I must congratulate the "change the subject ASAP" group.

So let's get back to the topic of this thread.  Will Walt reply?

The letter contains a lot of information to place on a time line.  Maybe someone will do that for us.  I would say that Dr Day is right on!

I know you would like us to shut up so that sin can continue to abound.  God forbid!
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: tinka on June 14, 2009, 06:12:43 PM
At the elevated risk of raining on the 3ABN discussion parade and incurring the wrath of some on this site, it seems it must be said that perhaps too many folks are involved in flogging dead horses when there is a gospel that needs to be taken to those who are spiritually dead and physically dying every day for lack of the good news! If there were as much interest and energy invested in doing something personal every day for the sake of those who need the gospel as there is by some in endlessy debating this and that aspect of the lives and of the two principle Sheltons, then the gospel would be taken that much sooner to the world, and Jesus could come and take us home. In fact, the case could be made that many who are investing so much precious time and energy turning the problems of 3ABN in SDA's version of a juicy soap opera could better spend thier time and resources into helping to hasten the Lord's coming. So I throw out a challenge, invest your time, resources, energy and yourself fully into doing something real and concrete every day for the spread of the gospel, NOT the gossip! Remember, Satan is the accuser of the brothern. What ever has happened has happened, only God knows the details and can sort it out. That is His business, He is still in control, and has given us our marching orders. So, we really need to stick to the marching orders, and not try to sort out other people's problems!


So what you are saying dburt is that you want everyone to look the other way so the theivery can continue from the pews and also have you read that The Loud Cry will swell from the Holy Spirit and that a time will be, that it is better with the church in this condition at this moment that any new coming in might very well loose their soul when they learn the truth of this on going saga of thievery.

 I cannot stand the thoughts of what has been done here and if you think for one moment that this could not cause loss in some newcomers you have another thing to think of yourself. It seems you have no side to stand on one way or the other and all will be accounted that know and should have stood up for truth instead of covering for Satan and his agenda and for those that did not give a flip.  Just plain lazy of thoughts and convictions and efforts to change the evil within the church.  Did you ever read any consel on this ??

You are in the mode of Live and let live to the best that all can get. We definitely are in the majority of these efforts for the whole world. It is here, it is now and it is going down. DS is no different then the share the wealth mode that the majority of people of US put in to get their own agenda filled too.

Now watch what comes in the back door while this has got the attention of the world. Yes, yes, thieve the wealth and spread it out. Whether you earned it or not! DS is right in line with the corruption. It is now to late as the people fell for it. And now you suggest to just look the other way with better things to do. I like the song Onward Christian soldiers marching....
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Johann on June 15, 2009, 02:35:20 AM
I should say this is interesting information. Thank you for posting it. I have a notion it will be studied by legal counsel and compared with other information concerning what happened.

I have spoken with a Gospel Outreach Board member and what Johann said is not correct information. 

1) Linda Shelton did NOT help collect any funds for Gospel Outreach. You are mixed up. She helped with Blue Mountain TV (Hope) to collect funds for them at a later date. She did not collect any funds for Gospel Outreach.  These are two different entities.

2) 3ABN did not "close down" the work of Gospel Outreach. The GO Board member spoke with Jim Gilley who told them they had "poor quality programming" and that they needed to upgrade. Gospel Outreach is in the process of meeting these standards set by 3ABN.  This was between Jim Gilley and GO Board, Danny didn't even know about it.  The GO Board member who spoke to me said their programming did need to improve and that this was a goal of theirs so they could be back on 3ABN soon.




Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on June 15, 2009, 04:48:06 AM
Shouldn't this be an easy thing to verify one way or the other?

I should say this is interesting information. Thank you for posting it. I have a notion it will be studied by legal counsel and compared with other information concerning what happened.

I have spoken with a Gospel Outreach Board member and what Johann said is not correct information. 

1) Linda Shelton did NOT help collect any funds for Gospel Outreach. You are mixed up. She helped with Blue Mountain TV (Hope) to collect funds for them at a later date. She did not collect any funds for Gospel Outreach.  These are two different entities.

2) 3ABN did not "close down" the work of Gospel Outreach. The GO Board member spoke with Jim Gilley who told them they had "poor quality programming" and that they needed to upgrade. Gospel Outreach is in the process of meeting these standards set by 3ABN.  This was between Jim Gilley and GO Board, Danny didn't even know about it.  The GO Board member who spoke to me said their programming did need to improve and that this was a goal of theirs so they could be back on 3ABN soon.




Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Johann on June 15, 2009, 07:27:52 AM
Shouldn't this be an easy thing to verify one way or the other?

It certainly would be nice if it's that easy. Lawyers and quasi-lawyers seem to thrive on re-interpreting verifications. Some do all kinds of tricks to hide facts and make it appear like the opposite happened.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Pat Williams on June 15, 2009, 07:53:10 AM
Shouldn't this be an easy thing to verify one way or the other?

I should say this is interesting information. Thank you for posting it. I have a notion it will be studied by legal counsel and compared with other information concerning what happened.

I have spoken with a Gospel Outreach Board member and what Johann said is not correct information. 

1) Linda Shelton did NOT help collect any funds for Gospel Outreach. You are mixed up. She helped with Blue Mountain TV (Hope) to collect funds for them at a later date. She did not collect any funds for Gospel Outreach.  These are two different entities.

2) 3ABN did not "close down" the work of Gospel Outreach. The GO Board member spoke with Jim Gilley who told them they had "poor quality programming" and that they needed to upgrade. Gospel Outreach is in the process of meeting these standards set by 3ABN.  This was between Jim Gilley and GO Board, Danny didn't even know about it.  The GO Board member who spoke to me said their programming did need to improve and that this was a goal of theirs so they could be back on 3ABN soon.




Yes, it would be easy to verify Mr Fawcett. Unfortunately it seems most of the crew here prefer to believe what their friends here tell them, or what they say something means or indicates, and can't let the facts or other contrary evidence get in the way of that.

For example Johann claimed Gospel Outreach has been victimized and persecuted by 3ABN.

Yet no one here seems to think that what the two parties;Gospel Outreach and 3ABN, and specifically both of their presidents has to say is important, or cares to ask either of them about it. Gospel Outreach does not in fact echo Johann's claim.

Nor did any of the crew here even bothers to ask Johann (living in a completely different country and not related to either party ) to explain where he got his information from, or even bothers to ask him for anything to support or prove his reported as "fact" claim, for that matter.

Instead they tried to discredit and attack the one person who did bother to talk to the President of Gospel Outreach and post what they were told by both parties and where their information came from. (easily verified)


 There are too many koolaid drinkers here in my opinion who just regurgitate and attack any dissenting voice as lying or protecting or defending sin, as if all that they have read here or had reported to them by 3ABN's accusers is the gospel truth.

Willful ignorance, and a refusal to verify or prove things, does not justify repeating false accusations, nor their attacks of those who do try and do so.

Johann wrote:
"It certainly would be nice if it's that easy. Lawyers and quasi-lawyers seem to thrive on re-interpreting verifications. Some do all kinds of tricks to hide facts and make it appear like the opposite happened."


Johann,

All lawyers know that here say such as you posted here is not evidence. I am quite sure Linda's lawyers, if they thought it at all relevant, would go to the two parties involved and get their first person accounts, and quickly discover that they were in agreement and that their account doesn't match your account.(Linda's).


Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Johann on June 15, 2009, 04:13:44 PM
Yes I care to know the truth. Tall me, therefore, when did that conversation between the two presidents take place, that Danny did not even know about?


For pity sakes, "quality programming" as IN THE FILMING PROCESS.   The FILMS were of POOR quality.   ...um, do any of you know anything about filming? --we are in the digital age now you know.  

I spoke to the President of GO.  He seemed just fine about it all, with talking with Jim Gilley at 3ABN and knew they needed to upgrade their equipment. 

And NO, Danny didn't know about it until later.  Jim Gilley is the one who was involved.  It is possible to verify this information if you care to know the truth.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Mary Sue Smith on June 15, 2009, 09:59:24 PM
I spoke with the President/Board member of GO (I don't believe he is President now--the Board takes turns so they all have been President at one time or another) sometime last December. I don't know the exact day. He said he had spoken with Jim Gilley about this issue previously to our conversation. I do not know the exact date when he spoke with Jim G.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Bob Pickle on June 16, 2009, 10:17:30 AM
And why should we believe you?

I seem to recall Junebug more than once clearly making statements that weren't so. And then there is her great hesitancy to say that even if the minor was consenting, child molestation is still wrong.

So I wouldn't want to accept anything Junebug says unless she can provide some sort of solid, convincing, documentary support.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Fran on June 16, 2009, 11:10:46 AM
Well, I sure wish all these people posting to draw attention from the Open letter to Walt Thompson that says Danny is guilty and Linda is innocent.  I agree that the evidence should be forthcoming.  Oops!  Since there is no evidence of Linda being an adulterer.  There is only evidence that Danny and Walt are guilty!

Walt did not lie when he said he has never seen proof that Linda committed adultery, yet he stands behind the "giant gorilla in the room."

When will 3ABN correct all this mess? 

         
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Johann on June 16, 2009, 03:05:13 PM
Your partial answer is a partial help. Although I have gathered some important information I will wait till I have some more - within a few weeks.

I spoke with the President/Board member of GO (I don't believe he is President now--the Board takes turns so they all have been President at one time or another) sometime last December. I don't know the exact day. He said he had spoken with Jim Gilley about this issue previously to our conversation. I do not know the exact date when he spoke with Jim G.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: dburt on June 16, 2009, 09:42:42 PM
Tinka- so you believe I live in a live and let live mode? Hardly! How you got that from my posting is a deep mystery to me! Some of the folks on this forum really do need to get a life other then beating the dead horse of the old Shelton/3ABN chronicles. What are you doing, personally, every day to share the gospel with someone? Do you have a plan to answer personally someday to the questions posed in Matt 25:31-46? Personally, I want to be found in the line of duty. I realize that in 2nd Opinions 3:37 we are instructed to sort out every mess that we find in the church, but since 1st and 2nd Opinions are extra-biblical, I will have to stick with the original scriptures. In Matt 28:19-20 we have a comission from the Lord. (Sorry, could not find anything from 2nd Opinions that agreed with that scriptural passage). While many discuss, rediscuss, and debate ad nauseum, there is a work begging for workers and that work is taking the gospel to the world through personal effort, we are to work to hasten His return. I submit if one is busy doing the Lord's work by following the great comission, one would not have much time to wallow in the mire! The devil and his minions must have many a celebration over what they can involve so many of God's people in, and gossip is so tasty and all-absorbing! Kinda like Twinkies- junk food for the soul. But hardly what we need in these very end times!
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Fran on June 16, 2009, 10:52:34 PM
They can't be Christians, or they would want to see the evidence too! 

But instead, they have to come over here and lie some big ones!  They have no proof of anything!  Instead they change the subject.  I will have to continue to remind them this about a letter from Dr Day to Walt Thompson and to me it seems to be right on! 

Linda is innocent!  Prove she is not. 

Danny is an adulterer.  Prove he is not.

Produce something to put this mess to rest. 

With out that proof, this will continue to balloon.  I sure wonder what is happening with the two cases that are still on going.

Do you think Walt will respond with the truth?  Or, do you think he will continue to hide behind Danny, the known liar?

If they persistt, I will have to keep bringing it back to the topic.  This is not right.  I thought there was a rule about changing the subject of the thread.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: tinka on June 17, 2009, 05:28:03 AM
Tinka- so you believe I live in a live and let live mode? Hardly! How you got that from my posting is a deep mystery to me! Some of the folks on this forum really do need to get a life other then beating the dead horse of the old Shelton/3ABN chronicles. What are you doing, personally, every day to share the gospel with someone? Do you have a plan to answer personally someday to the questions posed in Matt 25:31-46? Personally, I want to be found in the line of duty. I realize that in 2nd Opinions 3:37 we are instructed to sort out every mess that we find in the church, but since 1st and 2nd Opinions are extra-biblical, I will have to stick with the original scriptures. In Matt 28:19-20 we have a comission from the Lord. (Sorry, could not find anything from 2nd Opinions that agreed with that scriptural passage). While many discuss, rediscuss, and debate ad nauseum, there is a work begging for workers and that work is taking the gospel to the world through personal effort, we are to work to hasten His return. I submit if one is busy doing the Lord's work by following the great comission, one would not have much time to wallow in the mire! The devil and his minions must have many a celebration over what they can involve so many of God's people in, and gossip is so tasty and all-absorbing! Kinda like Twinkies- junk food for the soul. But hardly what we need in these very end times!

First of all, (gossip) What do you expect people to do when they see fact before their eyes?? (Look the other way??  LIve and let live) I suppose if I would not have been or family a contributer maybe, but then again I am a right and wrong person that I am thankful that God gave me that ability.

Your undecided mystery how someone can come to that conclusion of how one can get that scenario from your post is baffling when you can read and write. This is what you call a seared mind to the truth of eye view of extravaganza, divorce, accusations not proven against someone.  You see 3abn made it all public their selfs. It was not hard to see the "NEbbie" program coming down. Constant bragging and the stories of the"great doer" over and over. You never heard that stuff from LS or anything like it. And you think it is a mystery!! Your reaction on post proves the Let LIve and close the doors to truth.

My life is very full and I make use well of my time for the benefit of others. Even when we have been stripped of lifes work in business, home and farm by political agenda and it all began by the trusting of SDA people just like ol DS because God gave us something of value. But God's revenge was also seen after the fact of the deceivers. We have suffered through much but the end is near for those that deceive and take and spend and hide and falsify to the benefit of the all mighty dollar it is near for them too. The protectors or people that like to cover up will face the same music. You see, you must prove the eye view did not happen or clear the mystery that is in you head.

Also I do not sort Bibical Scripture to suit my taste!! Right is right and wrong is wrong.  How long did it take for you to use scripture against scripture. There is what I call wasted time. You can always find what you look for to the best of your scenario. Satan was good at that too. As he used presumption against Jesus to prove HImself.

Think of this....Did it not ring a bell of Nebuchadnezzar when DS started his bragging. It did me!!  Nothing wrong with this?? sorry for you!!

But then again the majority does not seem to follow any counsel at any length.
I just saw Hope channel and the HOmecoming performing music with the hopping, dancing and clapping, waving their unclean hands to the Lord to the agenda of the "Gaither HOur". SDA must copy in order to stay with the ongoing likes of the public. We are no different there now. Sure I like the gaither hour as they are sincere in what they believe. The SDA music was good ...if you abandon the counsel. I could not believe it and wondered who was ahead of that?  But I saw them all there and performing and performing.....to their own agenda and fake against our counsel.  Del Decker did not change as always.  I finally realized they joined the crowd and felt abandoned by our faith. It was funny them trying to copy the Gaither Hour. I was even more funny to see their banchie red hair on everyone coming from their sprayed on lights. This is just my opinion again and makes no difference to anyone else except me. It just don't match the counsel we have and neither does the NEbbie fact or anything good that has come from this 3abn scenario or the protectors of evil. Change what is history?? you can't and there is no repentance given to no one. Just show me the money.. pews!! and the rest just occupy yourselves in something else and look the other way. Some minds on here are not closed to truth but war against the eye view of WRONG against the counsel of the church.
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Daryl Fawcett on June 17, 2009, 05:39:06 AM
As it is apparent that two different things are being discussed here, that the other thing being discussed be split off into a separate topic, which I know the forum software here is capable of doing.

In order not to disrupt this thread any further, I looked for and discovered an appropriate thread for discussing this, therefore, I posted about that at the following thread link:

http://www.adventtalk.com/forums/index.php/topic,1562.15.html
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Snoopy on June 17, 2009, 08:00:54 AM
Tinka- so you believe I live in a live and let live mode? Hardly! How you got that from my posting is a deep mystery to me! Some of the folks on this forum really do need to get a life other then beating the dead horse of the old Shelton/3ABN chronicles. What are you doing, personally, every day to share the gospel with someone? Do you have a plan to answer personally someday to the questions posed in Matt 25:31-46? Personally, I want to be found in the line of duty. I realize that in 2nd Opinions 3:37 we are instructed to sort out every mess that we find in the church, but since 1st and 2nd Opinions are extra-biblical, I will have to stick with the original scriptures. In Matt 28:19-20 we have a comission from the Lord. (Sorry, could not find anything from 2nd Opinions that agreed with that scriptural passage). While many discuss, rediscuss, and debate ad nauseum, there is a work begging for workers and that work is taking the gospel to the world through personal effort, we are to work to hasten His return. I submit if one is busy doing the Lord's work by following the great comission, one would not have much time to wallow in the mire! The devil and his minions must have many a celebration over what they can involve so many of God's people in, and gossip is so tasty and all-absorbing! Kinda like Twinkies- junk food for the soul. But hardly what we need in these very end times!


If I remember correctly, Jesus did NOT turn a blind eye when greedy merchants made a mercantile exchange out of His temple...

Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Snoopy on June 17, 2009, 08:18:38 AM
As it is apparent that two different things are being discussed here, that the other thing being discussed be split off into a separate topic, which I know the forum software here is capable of doing.

In order not to disrupt this thread any further, I looked for and discovered an appropriate thread for discussing this, therefore, I posted about that at the following thread link:

http://www.adventtalk.com/forums/index.php/topic,1562.15.html


Daryl,

Just so we are clear, I am posting this as a moderator without the red hat.  You need to stop with the little jabs at administration and what we are or are not doing.  If you have an administrative issue you would like to discuss, please feel free to utilize the PM option here which I know you are familiar with.  I am quite certain I am not the only member of AdventTalk administration getting tired of your backseat efforts to continue to inject yourself into the operation of the forum and to remind readers of your former role here.  I appreciate and enjoy your opinions on the issues being discussed, but your attempts to continue to control what happens here needs to stop.

Respectfully,

Snoopy
Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Johann on June 17, 2009, 03:29:57 PM
Well, I sure wish all these people posting to draw attention from the Open letter to Walt Thompson that says Danny is guilty and Linda is innocent.  I agree that the evidence should be forthcoming.  Oops!  Since there is no evidence of Linda being an adulterer.  There is only evidence that Danny and Walt are guilty!

Walt did not lie when he said he has never seen proof that Linda committed adultery, yet he stands behind the "giant gorilla in the room."

When will 3ABN correct all this mess? 

         
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Title: Re: Open letter to chairman Thompson
Post by: Fran on June 21, 2009, 10:04:54 AM
This thread is missing the meat and potatoes of the letter to Walt.  What led up to that letter?  Why does she say what she has said?
You can read it in the altogether at:

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/dr_day/shelton's/danny_shelton.htm. 

I am not loading the information, because some subject matter is posted in another private thread.

To me it is good to see the whole and not pieces.  If people will read, it would clear some "muddy" water.